April 01, 2009
Repeating: Carolina, Cutler not a match
What a mess the Denver Broncos have with quarterback Jay Cutler. Barely a week after new coach Josh McDaniels told reporters at the NFL owners' meetings that Cutler definitely was the team's quarterback, and that he expected that to be the case five years from now, team owner Pat Bowlen issued a press release saying the team would try to trade Cutler, per his request.
Bowlen's statement said Cutler was not returning calls from the club and that Cutler's agent, Bus Cook, made it clear the QB no longer wants to play for Denver.
With all the buzz in Carolina country about Cutler, we thought it worthwhile to once again say here that Cutler isn't Carolina's kind of player and making a trade for him doesn't fit in the team's plans. As much as some Carolina fans don't want to hear it, dealing for Cutler simply isn't something the Panthers are interested in doing.
Cutler is extremely talented, but there are questions about his leadership ability, which have been magnified by his refusal to make amends with the Broncos in recent weeks after being hurt that McDaniels originally wanted to replace him with Matt Cassel.
As for trading Julius Peppers for Cutler, which has been discussed by fans on blogs and message boards, Denver is not one of the four teams for which Peppers wants to play, despite the fact that the Broncos plan to play a 3-4 defense.
-- Charles Chandler
Posted by Observer Sports on April 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM | Permalink
Well that point is pretty much moot.... Peppers was traded to Dallas :(
2nd round pick this year, and a 1st rounder next year.
Here's the link.
Posted by: Nate | Apr 1, 2009 11:35:52 AM
Why is this blog such a downer? It seems like every post on here is one of "You stupid Panther fans, the Panthers have no interest in signing or trading any quality players this offseason and how DARE you think otherwise??"
Can't you at least let us IMAGINE an offense with Jay Cutler under center, Smitty and Moose at receiver, an amazing offensive line, AND Double Trouble? I know the Panther FO is too stupid to want something like this because of their obsession with Jake Delhomme, but man...can't a guy dream?
Posted by: jonathan | Apr 1, 2009 11:36:55 AM
Well Said Charles...and plus, yes Denver would get Peppers, but who's their quarterback at that point if Cutler is gone? They're not getting a draft pick worth anything from us because we don't have a 1st rounder...and Denver has the 12th pick, but I don't think quarterback is really where they want to go. I'd love to have Cutler's talent on this team, don't get me wrong, but he's a headcase and acts as if he's bigger than the team. We don't need that.
Posted by: Justin | Apr 1, 2009 11:37:35 AM
What if we traded Matt Moore along with Peppers? I'm sure they wouldn't want Jake, but Matt Moore has a bright future ahead of him.
Posted by: jonathan | Apr 1, 2009 11:40:10 AM
IT is possible for a three way trade with NE. Im so sick of Carolina being so freakin boring. Jake sucks and will never lead this team to another Superbowl. Cutler would bring some excitment to this team and they would not be so one dim. No team in the league is afraid of Jake which makes it easy for them to shut down the run. Just ask Arizona. They will be 6-10 this year with Jake its too bad they are letting this opportunity go by.
Posted by: clay | Apr 1, 2009 11:41:37 AM
Smooth Nate. I actually believed it there for a minute. haha
Posted by: Clay | Apr 1, 2009 11:47:11 AM
for Nate | Apr 1, 2009 11:35:52 AM
Posted by: PD | Apr 1, 2009 11:49:30 AM
You're never going to get a trade with Peppers. 1) The Great Julius asked to be traded yet he has refused to sign the Franchise Tender so he can be traded. 2) The Idiot he calls an agent has decided not to talk to anyone probably because he does not have a clue as to how to move his ONLY client. No wonder Fox thought Julius being traded was laughable.
Posted by: scoot | Apr 1, 2009 11:50:27 AM
Posted by: b.stiller | Apr 1, 2009 11:50:36 AM
Cutler is not Carolina's type of player, are you kidding me. Carolina doesn't enjoy strong armed QB's that make pro bowls in their 3rd yr. We won in spite of Delhomme last year, dont forget that. I love Delhomme as a guy, but way too erratic. And for the people on here stating he is not a leader, you dont know him, I do. The kid is a great talent and good kid with great leadership. McDaniels is the one to blame here for coming in at 32 and acting as if he should get Belichick respect with no track record (hello Weis Jr) If Carolina wants to be searching for a new QB after this yr, dont trade for him. But if you want the cornerstone of your franchise for the next 10 yrs, make the trade and show some guts!
Posted by: JS | Apr 1, 2009 11:51:33 AM
I like Jake, but without the heroics of Steve Smith and others, he'd have been a back-up a long time ago. Much like Randy Moss made Culpepper.
Trade Jake and Peppers for Cutler and 2 hi draft picks and let's get on with it. Otherwise we are looking at 6-10 best. That might be a good thing in that may be a good thing in that we can finally be rid of Fox. For the less informed, Fox has never had 2 winning seasons in a row...IT IS WHAT IS IS!
The Panthers are probably going to wait around till Jake's trade worth is zero and Peppers has sucked the life out of the team monetarily & psychologically.
Posted by: LR | Apr 1, 2009 11:55:26 AM
If you get Stewart a fullback, and get rid of that Smith guy who gets a free pass every game, and move Beason to outside linebacker, and retire Delhomme, maybe Jay Cutler is interested.
Posted by: mooncamping | Apr 1, 2009 11:57:57 AM
Nate, you suck, man. Hook, line, and sinker--I bought it. I thought it was a reasonable trade and was happy we got him out of here.
Posted by: grader | Apr 1, 2009 11:59:15 AM
Cutler isnt coming here.
I dont know why you people seem to think he is, and with that 4-year old attitude he's put on, im glad.
Posted by: AGH! | Apr 1, 2009 12:00:13 PM
Cutler isn't a match for Carolina?
I'm guessing because Cutler is good the Panthers just aren't about having good quarterbacks.
Posted by: Clayton | Apr 1, 2009 12:05:31 PM
John Fox would not know a good quarterback if it bit him in the butt. Our quarterbacks under Fox have been a "has been" and a "never was".
As long as Fox is here, there will never be a quality quarterback on this roster.
Look how long it took him to figure out how to staff the Oline.
We have a defensive coach who thinks he can also run the offense. What a joke????
Posted by: Robert Willett | Apr 1, 2009 12:08:29 PM
And Jake Delhomme is one hell of leader. He completely destroyed our plyoffs hopes last season, one man, not the team. He sucked before his surgery and now he is worse. Im just glad the Bobcats are turning things around so mabye we can have one winning team next season.
Posted by: Dumbokiller | Apr 1, 2009 12:11:43 PM
Send Peppers and Jake to Denver for a Cutler and a 2nd round pick. Jake can compete for the job with Chris Simms while the Broncos look for a long term solution. Suddenly, the Panthers are one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL. Imagine Smitty or Moose running the seam and catching a well placed Cutler bullet in stride instead of having to reach behind or down or going up and getting exposed to a huge hit. The difference between Jake and Cutler is accuracy and arm strength. Jake is great leader and a great guy but not a great QB.
Posted by: jim | Apr 1, 2009 12:11:58 PM
Can you even imagine Steve Smith with more than mediocrity under center? Unfathomable the Cutler to Smith hook up potential.
Go watch what all Steve Young said on the national TV postgame about our quarterback and pass plays AFTER we pounder Denver.
That speaks volumns if you ask me.
Posted by: Wes | Apr 1, 2009 12:12:09 PM
got me nate. good one. I was just thinking man now i really cant like peppers. UNC and the cowgirls that would be a double wammy
Posted by: Chris | Apr 1, 2009 12:16:50 PM
That's right, Cutler isn't a good match for the Panthers. That's because Fox and Company like old, washed up quarterbacks instead of a young gunner. It is a sweet thought imagining a bullet from Cutler to Steve Smith....Smitty wouldn't know what to think with a REAL QB throwing him the ball.
It's too bad that Denver isn't on Peppers' wish list because it would make a ton of sense to trade Pep and Jake to Denver for Cutler and a low round draft pick.
Posted by: CJ | Apr 1, 2009 12:38:45 PM
Cutler is not the Panthers' type of player? Okay, and let me preface this by saying that I love #89, if the Panthers are willing to deal with Steve after his incidents which showed a lot of immaturity then how can you sit at the Observer and type that Cutler wouldn't be a good fit here? Is it because he has elite QB potential and that would force Fox to replace Delhomme? This is the offseason so Cutler, Peppers and any other professional athlete has the right to conduct their business matters anyhow they see fit. Remember, they are guaranteed only so much and the team ultimately has the final say so as to when a player's time is over with an organization. Cutler was slighted and lied to and now he wants to be traded. I'd take him in a second and never look back. You then have a 9 year younger QB with loads of talent and potential which can not be said about Delhomme who is 34 years old. He is what he is! Got it Fox? It is what it is...and he's not going to change! The Observer, some patsy fans and this regime is okay with mediocrity and not trying to move to the elite level of the NFL. I, on the other hand, want to know what it feels like to be a fan of a consistently winning product year in and year out (i.e., New England Patriots, Indianapolis Colts, etc.). Here's the hook for you pessimists, if you say the difference is their QB then why wouldn't you make the trade for Cutler? Hmmm...
Posted by: NFL247 | Apr 1, 2009 12:42:19 PM
Too true Dumbokiller! Pretty sad that the Charlotte franchise with the brighter future right now is the BOBCATS lol.
Posted by: jonathan | Apr 1, 2009 12:42:32 PM
Have to jump in here before poor Charles locks the thread because the posters don't agree with him.
The Panthers would be crazy not to pick up the phone and at least make an offer for Cutler. The guy is only 25 years old and could be the quarterback for the team for the next decade. Like Gohomme or not, (I don't) he is at the end of his career. Gohomme could "manage" (I use that term loosely & say that only for his worshipers on this forum...ie. Charles Chandler) the position for no more than two seasons at the most. Bottom line is the Panthers will need a quarterback to replace him within the next two years. Cutler is a guy with all the physical tools to play the position. He has an extremely strong arm, moves in the pocket, can make throws on the move, and even take off and run when needed. Plus Cutler has shown he can perform at a Pro Bowl level in the NFL. Cutler set franchise records last season with the Broncos eclipsing HOF John Elway’s marks. The kid can play and he has only been in the league for three years. Now granted there might be a maturity issue currently, but remember he is 25 year old kid. I'd rather have a quarterback that has played at a Pro Bowl level taking over the position than a rookie or journeyman backup. Quarterback is the most important position on any football team and one of the best in the NFL has a “for sale” sign around his neck. The Panthers will need one in no more than two seasons. How if you’re Marty Hurney do you not pick up the phone????
Posted by: J Thomas | Apr 1, 2009 12:57:14 PM
I have a question. Who are the four teams ? From what I have read, they can only name two, NE and Dallas. If not, I am mistaken. But how can you say Denver is not on the list ? Does anybody know the list for sure ? Other than sources who won't be named ?
More great reporting, how is it possible you three have survived the jobs cuts ?!?!? Is copying and pasting from ESPN and Steve Reed actually considered a job ?
Posted by: What ??? | Apr 1, 2009 12:57:27 PM
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