August 15, 2009
Beason: Team `definitely' needs vet DT
Posted by Observer Sports on August 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM | Permalink
Poor team financial management, up & down seasons, loyalty factors to a fault, poor preparation & game planning, unwillingness to adjust, stone age predictable offense, stale, unaggressive defense...... can someone tell me again why Fox is still here?
Posted by: D.W.G | Aug 15, 2009 1:31:34 PM
because you already had a job ya tool!
Posted by: arm chair coaches | Aug 15, 2009 1:44:02 PM
Posted by: Thorrez | Aug 15, 2009 2:07:55 PM
D.W.G You hit the nail right on the head. A man that tells it like it is.
Posted by: shawn | Aug 15, 2009 2:26:34 PM
Why is Fox still here? 3 playoffs in seven years and How about we actually see them play some games before we run the whole franchise out of town. Think you can wait that long?
Posted by: TP | Aug 15, 2009 2:37:33 PM
DWG (Dim Wit Goof) go read your comicbooks
Posted by: MajorLeague | Aug 15, 2009 2:37:38 PM
Posted by: Sean May | Aug 15, 2009 2:49:30 PM
The Panthers have the 2nd most wins in the NFC since Fox has been the coach what the hell else do you want?
Posted by: The Voss | Aug 15, 2009 3:26:49 PM
They do need to get a veteran DT. I agree with that. Not much out there right now. They're probably waiting for someone to get cut and pick one up. As far as Fox, most successful coach they've had. Yes, he's a bit too conservative, but has been successful. As far as up and down seasons, I think injuries have something to do with that. To even win 7 games in 07 with four different quarterbacks says something. And yes I'm going to wait til the play the games before I start predicting how many game they win. Some of Panthers fans are the most fickle, clueless fans I've ever seen. Let's say we got Vick and he stunk it up, you guys would then be bitching about how dumn the Panthers were for picking him up, just like some of you are complaining about them overpaying Gross, and franchising Peppers. If they wouldn't have done that then some of you would be bitching about how stupid they were for not signing Gross and letting Peppers walk for nothing. Am I getting warm here?
Posted by: Kevin | Aug 15, 2009 6:25:25 PM
As everyone gnashes teeth about Peppers and his cap hit, tell me one thing - did I miss something this offseason, or was the market seriously light on quality DTs anyway?
Just because a team has cap room is no guarantee that a player that fits their need will be available.
Personally, I'm still hoping against hope that another deal like the one that was pulled for Harris two years ago comes about.
Posted by: Scott | Aug 15, 2009 6:32:44 PM
i wonder if the ignorant fans like DWG realize that the panthers wer the joke of the nfl in 2001, then fox turned the team around in just 2 years and led them to the superbowl. and, as someone else pointed out, the panthers are 2nd in wins in the john fox era in the nfc. but yeah, fire a coach who took a franchise that was 1-15 to 3 nfc title games and 2 division titles. get out of here!
Posted by: Brian | Aug 15, 2009 6:47:48 PM
Some people are just never satisfied:
Poor team financial management: How? We retained 21 of our 22 starters from last year. That just DOESN'T HAPPEN in the salary cap era. I believe all we lost was the long snapper.
up & down seasons: If you notice, there was a major injury to one of our impact players to start the down seasons.
loyalty factors to a fault: you have to reward your vets that put in work. and honestly, deshaun foster and dan morgan are the only examples of this. and both are no longer here. haven't been for 2 seasons.
poor preparation & game planning: 12-4, NFC South Champs.
unwillingness to adjust: 12-4, NFC South Champs.
stone age predictable offense: did you not see the run game shred up opposing D's last year? 12-4, NFC South Champs.
stale, unaggressive defense: touche'. but you saw what happened to Trgo.
...... can someone tell me again why Fox is still here?: Because he is the best coach we've ever f*ckin had, and barring the injury bug we reach the playoffs. To me...that's consistency. I don't know what you're looking at.
Posted by: Styles | Aug 16, 2009 9:54:26 AM
DWG is right....the rest of these people are completely fine with mediocrity...and yes...3 playoff experiences in 7 years in mediocrity...
But...that is what most fans are fine with...Steelers, Cowboys, Patriots, etc....Who wants to strive to be like them??
Especially when the last one looked as embarassing as it did...and that was NOT all on Jake D's head..period
Good luck with this 20 starter and 36 definite second and third stringers...you dont win with teams like that
Time for Fox to go...if you dont see it then congratulate them with another runner up effort...on all levels.
Posted by: David | Aug 16, 2009 9:35:52 PM
the only reason fox is still around is because don gregory has been scouting great drafts and hurney did a great job rebuilding the team last year by getting rid of foxes pets,foster,morgan.
weve missed the playoffs entirely in 4 of 7 years and when we did make it we looked like a pop warner team in 2 of those 3 appearances.that cardinal game makes me want to vomit.fox was totally outcoached.can you say choke.! jake,foxy.
stop blaming injuries for bad seasons.it doesnt seem to affect belichick.
Posted by: ray | Aug 17, 2009 11:32:52 AM
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