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January 26, 2010

Senior Bowl notes

MOBILE, Ala. -- Panthers coach John Fox and general manager Marty Hurney sat near the top of the stands in Ladd Peebles Stadium this morning scouting the North team practice for the Senior Bowl.

Both are staying mum, declining comment after the practice about any and all issues relating to the Panthers' upcoming offseason moves -- their plans for upcoming free agent Julius Peppers, the potential search for a young quarterback prosect, etc.

Fox also isn't saying how he feels about coaching the 2010 season in the final year of his contract.

However, his preparations are fully underway to be with the team as planned. He's already hired a new wide receivers coach (Tyke Tolbert) and is in the process of finding a replacement for special teams coach Danny Crossman, who wasn't retained.

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Crossman is getting early work with his new team, the Detroit Lions, since their staff is coaching the North team in the Senior Bowl. Crossman was busy preparing the North's special teams units during this morning's practice.

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The South team, headlined by Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, is scheduled to begin practice at 2:45 p.m. ET. Scouts on hand yesterday said Tebow struggled with some of his throws and with taking snaps from center. He was accustomed to taking snaps out of the shotgun formation in Florida's spread offense.

This is a big week for Tebow as he tries to show pro scouts that he can play quarterback in the NFL.

-- Charles Chandler 

Posted by Observer Sports on January 26, 2010 at 01:20 PM | Permalink

Comments

Bummer for Tebow. Early indications are that he would flop.

I was hoping he'd slip to the third and we take him, and that maybe he'd turn out to be a star.

Now based on his scout reports being so bad, I think I'd rather invest the pick in other team needs.

Posted by: Gamble20Gamble20 | Jan 26, 2010 2:44:42 PM

if he goes to third round he would still probably be a good pick then. The Panthers arent hurting for many positions.

Posted by: MrBernz | Jan 26, 2010 4:14:39 PM

crossmans hiring by the lions tells you a lot about why the lions are the worst team in the league.havent they seen films of our s.t since obrien left? puzzling.

Posted by: ray | Jan 26, 2010 4:59:39 PM

tebow in the 5th round?

Posted by: joe cool | Jan 26, 2010 6:53:42 PM

Gamble, you have to realize that this is the first time Tebow has ever run this offense and this is coming at the same time as it is that the coaches are trying to change his mechanics so of course he's going to struggle. Now do I think he'll be a star in the NFL? No, but what's happening this week isn't because he'll be a bad player.

Posted by: Reid | Jan 26, 2010 7:29:38 PM

look better day 2 so will see for Tebow

Posted by: Telling Like It Is | Jan 26, 2010 8:41:13 PM

I hope we take Tebow. I am not a Florida fan but getting the biggest name in college football would be nice. Add some competitor to the Matt Moore QB battle plus he could play a variety of NFL postilions.

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Posted by: NFL Shop | Jan 26, 2010 9:42:24 PM

"Fox, Panthers staff don't break silence...?" Really? And you hacks are puzzled by this??? I hope he and his staff lock you jokers out of camp this season! He wouldn't be the first to do that to the press.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A SUCCESSFUL TEAM AND LESS ARTICLES TO READ, THEN AN UNDERMINED COACH AND A BUNCH OF LAME JUNK PUBLISHED.

GO PANTHERS! GO FOX!!!!

Posted by: SYRPIS | Jan 26, 2010 11:05:00 PM

Does anyone feel that Fox really gives a hoot about what any of us fans think....including the PSL owners who are financially invested in the panthers home stadium? "Staying mum" is what Fox and Hurney are good at...it would be a shock if Fox began to start building relationship with the fans. One never knows where he is really coming from....totally unlike Sean Payton and other coaches who seem to truly value their fans. You can really feel it in their press conferences. Actually, Hurney is pretty good at it, but Fox gives the appearance that the fans and in prticular the media are necessary evils!

Posted by: EDDIELUCY | Jan 27, 2010 4:32:15 AM

Danny Crossman gets picked up by the Lions lololol!

Posted by: Revshawn | Jan 27, 2010 8:18:18 AM

I'm starting to think that Fox doesn't say much because he's not clever enough to say anything of substance. You can talk to the media and be interesting without tipping your hand if you have any skill at conversation.

Go on NFL.com and look at a Cardinal or Saint postgame press conference video, to see a coach that can talk in public. He is one of the most boring press conferences ever and even after a win, when there is nothing to hide anymore, he doesn't know what to say. He's like the hot chick that you think is stuck-up then you talk to her and realize she just has nothing to say.

Posted by: SportsDon | Jan 27, 2010 10:13:50 AM

Panthers should stay away from Tebow, unless we want to replace Jeff King (TE). Tebow doesn't have the mechanics to be a successful QB in the NFL, but he does have the size, strength, speed, and hands to play TE.

Draft Armanti Edwards in the 5th round, and give us some speed at (Wildcat) QB and WR.

Posted by: CD | Jan 27, 2010 10:25:13 AM

What they aren't telling you is that all of the QBs are struggling at the Senior Bowl. Mainly because all of them played in a shotgun spread type of offense. Early indications are that Jarrett Brown from WVU is the only QB that is looking decent at this point. If you draft Tebow you just have to know that he probably isn't going to be the kind of guy you just plug in during training camp and start him for 15 years. He is a project. Kind of like just about every QB in this years class. Jimmy Clausen might have the easiest transition because he played in the pro style offense at ND. I think the Panthers will have a choice of several QB prospects in the 2nd round. Personally I think Tebow eventually will be a starting QB if he lands with the right team. I think the Panthers would be a great fit for him. He needs to be on a team with a strong running game who doesn't rely on the QB to carry them every week. If you take him you have to know he will be a work in progress. Personally I like McCoy better as a prospect. I would rather get McCoy in the 2nd round and start Matt Moore next year. Then we'll see what happens from that point on. One of the Panthers biggest mistakes during the Fox era has been their reluctance to draft QBs to groom. You can never have enough of them & they make great trade bait.

Posted by: Smiley | Jan 27, 2010 1:26:33 PM

Actually my least favorite (considerig his price tag) qb prospect is sam bradford, but he has really great footwork and other mechanics. He'd transition pretty well and he gets good velocity on the ball. But it's a risk because he'll be expensive and with the injury and all. Not to mention he played with three NFL lineman probabln made him look better than he was. McCoy is good but weak mechanics and doesn't have the overall talent and velocity that clausen or Bradford has. Clausen played a pro offense but he's extremely raw like tebow

Posted by: Gamble20 | Jan 27, 2010 2:19:03 PM

Panthers really need to spend Money in Free agents... Let's get Vince Wilfork. He is still young and he's one of the best Defensive Tackle in the NFL. IF that's our Mission to go to the Super Bowl.. and Draft Wide receiver Second Round and get Geather as outside Linebacker from Eagles... Finally, Mate Moore STarts.. If Panthers do that, we will be Contender to the Super Bowl....

Posted by: Al-King | Jan 27, 2010 3:44:22 PM

Wow that is not going to happen Al-King.

First off, Wilfork is NOT a 4-3 tackle. Why invest 25-30 million guranteed in a guy who may never work in our system. WAY too much risk. Second, we are completely strapped down in cap space with the economy and Peppers.

I'd rather resign Peppers. Ends tend to play well until 34-35, and peppers is FINALLY hitting his stride. Talk to anybody form other nfl teams and they want peppers bad.

My wish list is, draft a WR in the second, QB or DT in the third. Resign Peppers and Davis and Moore

Posted by: Gamble20Gamble20 | Jan 27, 2010 4:09:59 PM

Gamble20Gamble20 - first of all, what cap? There is no cap next year (Unless a new CBA is signed).

BUT..I agree with your wish list, for the most part. I'd target those positions, but there is no sense in reaching for anyone. heck, we might get a solid QB in the second. Someone always falls to there.

Posted by: bob | Jan 27, 2010 4:35:04 PM

Heres my options of what the Panthers should do this off season:

Option #1:

Give the francise tag to both Marshall and Davis around the $5-6 million for that 1 yr. Work out a deal with Peppers of giving him 7-10 million a yr.

- After that 1 yr ends, sign both Marshall and Davis to long term contracts becuz they will be unrestricted free agents after that 1 yr.

Option #2:

Franchise Peppers, trade him, maybe a 1st, 3rd, and a 6th rd draft pick. He has lots of vaule left at the age of 30.(Why risk giving him 22 million, when u can get 2 or 3 players for the price of 1.)

- Franchise Davis for 1 yr, then sign him to a long term contract when he becomes a unrestricted free agent, just like Peppers.

- Work out a deal with Richard M of paying him around 5-6 million dollars a yr, just my opinion.

Posted by: josh smith | Jan 27, 2010 7:09:23 PM

Who ever said draft Tebow is an idiot, why waist a pick on a player with poor mechanics, can't read defenses, and never had been in a nfl pro offense in college.

Both Tebow and Mccoy both played in spread offenses in college. Mccoy is a risk, he never line up under center in college, doesn't have a strong arm, and can't read defenses.

If ppl want a Qb in the draft than Danny Leavour is the guy i want. He has good potential to be a successful Qb in the league, but he look like he belongs in a spread offense.

My wish list through the draft:

2nd- Qb or Wr
3rd- DEnd
4th- WR
6th- CB,to add depth
7th- Tackle,to add depth

Posted by: josh smith | Jan 27, 2010 7:25:53 PM

Dan LeFevour is one of the top QB's in the draft. The Panthers need to take him in the 2nd or 3rd round. He would give Moore some extra competiton, and I really think LeFevour will be a great NFL QB in the future.

Posted by: Joe | Jan 27, 2010 8:51:10 PM

Josh, once you franchise Peppers there is the chance youre stuck paying him the 20+ mil for the year. They tried that last year and he didnt sign till it was too late to trade him, all he would have to do is not sign it till the last minute again. That said, i wouldnt mind paying him the 20 mil for a year if it comes down to that since there is no cap next year but i think if he stays it should be under a longer term contract.

Posted by: MrBernz | Jan 27, 2010 11:48:22 PM

I'm amused every year at this time how some fans say just draft to fill a position. This year it's QB. The Panthers (and most other good teams) have been successful drafting the best player on the board regardless of postion. We didn't need a RB when we drafted Stewart, but look what he's done for us. We didn't need an ILB when we took Beason as we had Morgan, but look what he's done. My early preferences for draft are 2. Jerry Hughes OLB TCU 3. Danario Alexander WR Missouri 4. Kam Chancellor S or eventually LB a la T. Davis. Virginia Tech 6. Nate Collins DT Virginia 7. Brandon Banks WR/KR/PR Kansas small waterbug who is a TD threat every time he touches the ball. I reserve the right to change after the Senior Bowl and Combine. Just for fun as I never hit anyone the Panthers actually draft.

Posted by: magicman | Jan 28, 2010 3:28:49 AM

I'm amused every year at this time how some fans say just draft to fill a position. This year it's QB. The Panthers (and most other good teams) have been successful drafting the best player on the board regardless of postion. We didn't need a RB when we drafted Stewart, but look what he's done for us. We didn't need an ILB when we took Beason as we had Morgan, but look what he's done. My early preferences for draft are 2. Jerry Hughes OLB TCU 3. Danario Alexander WR Missouri 4. Kam Chancellor S or eventually LB a la T. Davis. Virginia Tech 6. Nate Collins DT Virginia 7. Brandon Banks WR/KR/PR Kansas small waterbug who is a TD threat every time he touches the ball. I reserve the right to change after the Senior Bowl and Combine. Just for fun as I never hit anyone the Panthers actually draft.

Posted by: magicman | Jan 28, 2010 3:28:49 AM

Dan Lefevour has a noodle arm and throws ducks everywhere. I want no part of him. He has struggled at the senior bowl.

Posted by: Smiley | Jan 28, 2010 11:19:36 AM

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