March 24, 2010
DeAngelo to Lions? No way, says Fox
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Since the Carolina Panthers don't have a first-round draft pick, there's been speculation in recent weeks about whether the team would dare trade one of their two premier running backs, DeAngelo Williams or Jonathan Stewart, in order to garner a first-round selection.
Coach John Fox made it clear this morning that no such thing is in the team's plans.
Told that the Detroit Lions were in need of running back help and asked if they'd called the Panthers about Williams, who has one year remaining on his contract, Fox said:
"We have not received any phone calls," Fox said at a media breakfast for NFC coaches at the league's annual meetings. "He wouldn't be one of the guys on the top of my lists to deal (away). We've had no conversations about any of our backs."
Fox said the Panthers were committed to keeping Williams and Stewart, who last season became the first pair of teammates in NFL history to each rush for 1,100 yards in the same season.
"We're not looking to get rid of those guys," he said.
"They're both very, very capable and, in my opinion, if you're going to lean on the run game, you need more than one."
-- Charles Chandler
Posted by Observer Sports on March 24, 2010 at 01:22 PM | Permalink
Let's stop talking about this.
Posted by: Duder | Mar 24, 2010 1:42:25 PM
WTF? I mean really. We need two elite backs. Leave the system alone!!!
Posted by: THEHYPEMAN | Mar 24, 2010 1:47:24 PM
Lol why would they trade him? Only a moron would even think it is a good idea. Like those idiots who want to trade Steve smith. Really? He's only the best WR we've ever had!
The two runningbacks is what makes us so great running the ball. Sure, they'd be good seperated but together they are always running with fresh Legs (unless injures) and wear the defense out.
Posted by: Gamble20 | Mar 24, 2010 1:48:40 PM
Fox needs to be talking about what he's going to do to save his and Hurney's jobs.. That's should be on his mind. He should have the same ultimatium that the Giants head coach Tom Coughlin had a few years ago. "SUPERBOWL" or "FIRED"!!!!
Posted by: Tyrone | Mar 24, 2010 1:48:44 PM
With that said if we could get a jay cutler type deal (two first and a third plus a starter) then MAYBE lol
Posted by: Gamble20 | Mar 24, 2010 1:49:57 PM
Yeah- no more speculation...
Posted by: AkJoe | Mar 24, 2010 1:53:47 PM
Wouldn't surprise me. Unloading as much payroll as possible, getting ready for the lockout.
Posted by: Milkman | Mar 24, 2010 2:02:10 PM
It wouldn't surprise you because you don't know what you are talking about.
Fox finally has the running game he has always wanted. If Matt Moore suceeds next year it will be largely because the run is setting up the pass and he is not being asked to carry the offense. Play action, short to medium passes then take a few shots down field to keep the corners honest. Like it or not that is John Fox football.
Posted by: Jimcat | Mar 24, 2010 2:16:26 PM
" He would be at the top of my list" ? WTF ?
Posted by: nasty704 | Mar 24, 2010 2:19:03 PM
Id like to see some of that "Peppers Money" go to giving DLO a 4-5 year contract next season if the cba gets worked out,BUT as always it comes down to how much the player wants/demands per his contract,vs what the company will pay.
Dlo has no major injuries and only half of the wear and tear of 90% of the other backs in the NFL. He is a rb that will still be capable @ and after the age of 30.
Good luck getting a new contract 34,your wanted and needed playing for the Panthers,mighty mouse.
Posted by: GhostOfSparta | Mar 24, 2010 2:24:21 PM
This shouldn't even be a discussion.
Posted by: PantherDave | Mar 24, 2010 2:46:00 PM
Terrible idea! We need both backs! Besides if you were going to get rid of one of them it should be J-Stew because he gets injured a lot more. But don't even do that, KEEP THEM BOTH!!
Posted by: Matt West | Mar 24, 2010 3:42:56 PM
we need a #2 receiver.....
Posted by: karaokekeith | Mar 24, 2010 4:03:56 PM
Just for fun I went to DraftTek.com and ran a new simulation "what if" Detroit gave us there 1st and 3rd pick and this was what I got back.
#2 (from Detroit)- Hdamukong Suh DT
#48 - Jahvid Best RB
#66 (from Detroit) - Tony Pike QB
#78 - Taylor Price WR
#112 - Brandon Lang DE
#175 - Charles scott RB
#202 - Adrian Tracy OLB
#204 - Kevin Thomas CB
#223 - Leigh Triffin PK
#249 - Kyle McCarthy SS
I'm not saying Panthers should do it but..
Posted by: blueblurring | Mar 24, 2010 4:04:55 PM
The second pick in the draft would be like 40 million in guarantees. Why would we give that to anybody?
If a team gave up a first and third for Deangelo I'd never take that deal. 1.) he was a first rous rookie, and has since proven himself to be worth more than an additional third round value, and 2.) he's still like 26 or so. We've got another 4-5 years left of great play.
Posted by: Gamble20 | Mar 24, 2010 4:35:44 PM
Sounds like the sportswriter is playing amateur GM and wants to know Fox's opinion.
Posted by: Ben | Mar 24, 2010 6:13:11 PM
what the F@*$ are we talking about!?!?!?
Posted by: matt s | Mar 24, 2010 6:28:40 PM
if we get rid of one of them...i give up on man...i will kill myself
Posted by: Brad b | Mar 24, 2010 8:17:45 PM
We have a sportswriter as our GM now. Maybe Scott Fowler will replace Hurney after next year. His first move would be to trade every pick next year to the Browns for his boyfriend Joke Glahomma
Posted by: kevin | Mar 24, 2010 8:30:46 PM
I said when the season ended we should trade D. Williams for a first and additional picks. It's good business. We trade him now while he is at the top of his game and young. Do you guys honestly think that the next RB wouldn't be good as well? Like one of you guys wrote earlier, Jahvid Best could be the next guy, and we know he is good. Not to mention some of the guys we already have. Sue is maybe one of the best DT's out of college in 20 years. I would do that deal. But, it isn't even on the board so don't worry.
Posted by: Rob | Mar 25, 2010 1:48:55 AM
@ Rob and blueblurring
Do u both really think the Lions will trade the 2nd overall pick in the 1st round? Along a high 3rd rounder. I don't think so, especially that will look for a $35-40 million gurantee contract when haven't proven anything to be worth the gamble.
Y'all idea of Jahvid Best is a clear laugher. I guess u both and others haven't read the injury issues he had in college with 3 concussions( 2 mainly this yr), a disloctaed arm, and ankle problems.
If the trade was to happen, why the hell would they draft another RB, when they have 2 quality Rb in Goodson and Sutton. Thats waisting another pick on one, when not needed.
Also his future was being in question of might out being able to play long enough of his career.
Everybody says its easy to find and replace Rbs, which is true. But how often do u see a Williams or Stewart come around that is drafting so highly? Not many
Finally, i wouldn't be suprise along u both and everybody will be bashing John F again of maybe trading a good player. Just to draft a bust player y'all wanted so bad.
Posted by: adam carter | Mar 25, 2010 3:48:06 AM
I never said "trade D Williams". Believe me Carolina will trade a "player" if Detroit wants to trade there 1st and 3rd.I just told you a web site with a draft simulate had us picking those players with Detroit's 1st and 3rd icluded. Think before you say Detroit would not pay that much for one of the best young RB in the league. I'm not saying they will but it would be less risky for them (remember all the high 1st round players Detroit has on pay roll because they haven't won and still are not wining). Caroline will miss Peppers but not as much as we've been missing Jenkins. When Jenkins was traded to the jets that was the first step to what we have now in Carolina. John Fox is a DEFENSE first coach followed by the POWER running game. He has Stewart and William. Both have been injured at times. Your telling me he has 2 more young RB in the stable.
Posted by: blueblurring | Mar 25, 2010 12:02:54 PM
i think williams is overated, trade him for two first rounds picks, while he still has value, he already is fragile..give me another young wr, trade smith he is acting like a thug, get younger, less expensive, that is the game plan anyway, three years from now you will forget about that thug smith and williams..
Posted by: teedog | Mar 25, 2010 12:26:50 PM
You can't win a Super Bowl when you are trying to invest in a QB like Jake. The Panthers invested in the wrong player for the last 5 years. The Panthers need to be getting some player here that going to help players like Steve Smith, D. Williams, J. Stewart, Jon Beason and Thomas Davis to win a Super Bowl because they have been carrying the team for the last 3 years. If they are thinking about trying D. Williams. I think the upper office is beaming up, Scottie!
Posted by: tmac | Mar 25, 2010 12:41:18 PM
Whats ur true definition of "overrated", please tell me?
This isn't the Broncos/Chicago fiasco of that happening. Stop living in fantasy land.
Lets trade Smith, who is the only WR that can get seperation from their defenders? Give me a break.
The Panthers wouldn't have anyone at the WR position that can draw attention to defenders, do we? Hello No
There isn't a gurantee the next guy will be ready to play rightaway.
For ur term "thug", we might as well trade Smith, Beason, and many players who are "thugs" to make u happy, right? LMAO i see we have a raciast person on these boards people.
Posted by: adam carter | Mar 25, 2010 5:37:18 PM
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