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March 22, 2010

Fox, Payton oppose OT change

   ORLANDO, Fla. – Panthers coach John Fox and NFC South rival Sean Payton, coach of the New Orleans Saints, say they aren't in favor of proposed changes to the NFL's sudden death overtime system.

   The league’s competition committee presented a proposal to league owners Monday to modify overtime for postseason games only so that if the team that wins the coin flip scores on a field goal on its first possession, the other team would get the ball and could either win with a touchdown or force a true sudden death with a field goal.

    The proposed change, which wouldn't affect regular-season games, came about after statistics showed that since the NFL moved the kickoff back from the 35- to the 30-yard line in 1994, the team that wins the coin flip has had around a 20 percent better chance of winning than the team that loses the toss.

   Though Fox said he found the data interesting, he's not sure it should -- or will -- lead to rules changes.

   “I’m pretty comfortable with the current rules,” said Fox. “We’re going to take it up for vote. I’ve got a a feeling it won’t pass.”

   Payton said he thinks the current system is good for the game because of the excitement of true sudden death -- once the overtime begins, the game can end at any time on a single play since the team that scores first wins.

   Payton, whose team won the Super Bowl this year, said he planned to speak out against the proposal in meetings Tuesday.

   Several owners, including Houston’s Bob McNair, said they were in favor of the proposal and would vote for it.

   The vote is expected to be taken Wednesday morning.


   The NFL plans to announce compensatory picks on Tuesday, rewarding teams for players lost via free agency with draft picks.

   The Panthers are expected to pick up a couple of late-round picks for losing offensive linemen Geoff Hangartner (to Buffalo) and Frank Omiyale (Chicago) during the 2009 free agency period.


   -- Charles Chandler


Posted by Observer Sports on March 22, 2010 at 04:12 PM | Permalink


Is anyone surprised that Fox is opposed to change? Not me. I bet if the Saints had lost to the Vikes in OT instead of the other way around that Payton would be singing a different tune.

Posted by: James Reed | Mar 22, 2010 4:42:05 PM

Yeah, TOTALLY not surprised Fox is voting for no change! LOL.

Posted by: JMW | Mar 22, 2010 5:00:00 PM

If it were up to Fox the players would still be wearing leather helmets and the forward pass would not be legal.

Posted by: manu4t | Mar 22, 2010 5:02:03 PM

@ James Reed

Of course Sean P would have agreed to change the OT rule if he had lost. As long as u win, anybody would say "no" to it.

It will likley happen anyway, so for them expressing their opinions about it, they should drop it and coach the team.

Posted by: adamcarter16 | Mar 22, 2010 5:03:35 PM

Hey Coach Fox are you in favor of doing games anything different to win games?

"No, Jake gives us our best chance to win"

But Coach you are 0-3

"Jake still gives us our best chance to win"

No wonder....stubborn old goat!

Posted by: Bobcat Terry | Mar 22, 2010 5:04:25 PM

Not a Panthers fan

I find it funny that some of u so called fans complain about the dumdest things. Y'all give a bad name for the loayl fans there

Maybe the city of Charlotte doesn't deserve a NFL franchise. " oh Mr. Richardson doesn't care about the team", hes cheap, and finally might as well sell the team.

I sure damn wish he does sell the team and move the team to Raleigh NC, where people there would embace having a NFL franchise there.

Get a grip, don't read any of the articles if u always read and leave "negative" comments.

Posted by: joshsmith199065 | Mar 22, 2010 5:20:55 PM

Follow college OT rules. Why is the game essentially decided by a coin flip?

Posted by: Mike | Mar 22, 2010 5:31:27 PM

I think OT should be 10 minutes of extra time. Period. Whoever is winning when the clock strikes 0:00 is the winner.

This approach reduces the impact of a chance flip of a coin and gives us all more football to watch.

Posted by: John's Fox | Mar 22, 2010 5:31:51 PM

And the guy from Raleigh, get a grip. The NFL will never come to your little town.

Posted by: John's Fox | Mar 22, 2010 5:33:58 PM

What if the game is tied after 10 minutes?

Posted by: rico | Mar 22, 2010 5:34:54 PM

They do overtime sudden death to please the networks. They give them 3 to 3 1/2 hours to play a game then they need to move on with the next program. Overtime should be about the fans that pay 50 dollars for nose bleeds seats. Ask any fan would they rather see 8 to 10 min. added or sudden death. 90percent would want the added min.

Posted by: Warrior | Mar 22, 2010 5:38:18 PM

@ John's Fox

LMAO. The truth must hurt, becuz i clealry wasn't referring to u by calling out ur name, right?

I clearly was talking to the so called fans of always complaining about the dumdest things.

Oh yeah just to let u know, im not even from the state of N.C. Im from Atlanta GA, im a Falcons fan.

Posted by: joshsmith199065 | Mar 22, 2010 5:50:23 PM

If the game is tied after regulation, a purist would conclude it's a draw. The current rules are already a compromise.

Posted by: nativeNCian | Mar 22, 2010 5:51:10 PM

Josh, You're not really far off base. Charlotte folks are arrogant and incestuous which is illustrated by their attitude toward Raleigh and the rest of NC. The CAROLINA Panthers are NC's team and we just happen to let Charlotte host the team for us because of their proximity to our awesome neighbor to the South.

Posted by: nativeNCian | Mar 22, 2010 5:58:01 PM

That's conservitive John Fox for you! No change! Obviously Fox didn't vote for Obama!

Posted by: panfan1 | Mar 22, 2010 7:01:50 PM

Hey Coach Fox, why should you oppose something that won't affect you? It's not like you'll make the playoffs.

Posted by: Rhyno | Mar 22, 2010 7:07:14 PM

to josh smith: maybe the panthers could move the team to carrboro and wear taffeta tutus.richard simmons could be the coach.

Posted by: raydaz | Mar 22, 2010 7:18:23 PM

@ raydaz

LMAO, jus stating true facts of why everyone complain so much. It seems like what ever decision Panthers managements makes, some people won't be satisfy.

Clearly everyone wanted Jake D gone, y'all gotten ur wish. Now from hearing his interview of being emotion crying by being "blindsided", everyone wants to talk about they haven't showed any "loyalty". Give me a break.

Posted by: josh smith | Mar 22, 2010 7:33:58 PM

Both NFL and college OT rules are flawed. They should adopt 5-minute OT periods similar to basketball.

Posted by: jason | Mar 22, 2010 8:45:56 PM

well here it is......NFL should absolutely stick with sudden death...because like it or not, if there is no winner after 60 minutes.....each team has had a fair chance to win...I mean if neither team cna beat the other.....after that all you should get is a 50/50 chance to win......and besides most of the games are NOT won on the first possession of overtime...and anyway if your defense is good enough to win, why should it matter?

Posted by: sirpurr | Mar 22, 2010 9:10:28 PM

if fox had his way he would dig up bronko nagurski and reinstitute the flying wedge.

Posted by: raydaz | Mar 23, 2010 8:14:43 AM

I can't see changing that overtime rule either.

Posted by: Jim | Mar 23, 2010 8:35:25 AM

I would like to quote Ron Green Sr. on this one. One day he wrote about a proposal that was floating around college hoops to allow teams fouled in the last 2 minutes to choose between free throws or getting the ball. Green wrote, "Some folks complain that this wouldn't give teams behind a chance to catch up. I say they shouldn't have fallen behind."

Same with the NFL OT rules. If you couldn't beat the other team in 60 minutes, lost the coin flip, and never got the ball in OT, as my dad used to say, "Them's the breaks." Tough toenails. Get over it and move on to next week.

And, for the record, there is nothing stupider in sports than the college football OT rules.

Posted by: J | Mar 23, 2010 12:12:28 PM

Who cares what Mr. "Jake gives us the best chance to win" Fox says.

Posted by: JAY | Mar 23, 2010 1:32:43 PM


A tie game after 10 minutes of overtime would end in a draw. Even if confuses Donovan McNabb. Moot point now. The proposed overtime rule passed the owner's vote.

@Josh Smith

You think the Falcons fan base doesn't give their team's leadership and players scrutiny? It's part of being a fan.

By the way, can't wait to smoke your namesake and the rest of the Hawks in the playoffs. LET'S GO 'CATS!

Posted by: John's Fox | Mar 23, 2010 6:12:24 PM

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