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March 02, 2010

$1.684 million for DT Louis Leonard?


Thomas Davis should get the highest tender possible, $3.268 million for next season.

The Panthers have until Thursday afternoon to submit tender offers for their 11 restricted free agents, and have been very deliberate with them. Some of the agents think they know what they’re getting, but none have been given official word just yet.

The Panthers are proceeding carefully, in part, because some of the decisions aren’t the no-brainers they seem to be.

LB Thomas Davis should get the highest tender possible ($3.268 million), which would bring back a first- and third-round picks in compensation. QB Matt Moore should get at least the first-round tender ($2.396 million), if not the first-and-third ($3.043 million), as they’ll want to keep him and make sure they’re properly compensated if another team’s in love with him.

But other decisions are more complicated, and driven by scarcity at certain positions.

One such case is DT Louis Leonard, who was acquired in a trade with Cleveland last summer and looked good in his brief time playing, before a broken leg in Atlanta ended his season.

The 25-year-old Leonard would figure to get the low tender of $1.101 million, but since he was undrafted, the Panthers would get no compensation if they chose to not match any offer he found in the market.

That might make them consider the second-round tender of $1.684 million, though they’d probably rather not go that high as cost-conscious as they’ve been lately.

If they go low, they might have to compete with other teams for his services. The unrestricted market at DT is particularly thin, with Pittsburgh’s Casey Hampton already re-signed and Green Bay’s Ryan Pickett, New England’s Vince Wilfork and San Francisco’s Aubrayo Franklin getting the franchise tag. That’s left just five unrestricted free agents under the age of 30 available.

That makes Leonard more attractive than you might think for a player with five career starts, especially since a team wouldn’t have to give up a draft pick to get him if the Panthers choose the low tender. He has experience in both 3-4 and 4-3 defenses, and could be viewed as a cheap alternative for many. The Panthers value him, thinking he could become an eventual starter at nose tackle. But if they go too low Thursday, they may have to fight for him.

The Panthers other RFAs are CB Richard Marshall, LB James Anderson, TE Jeff King, K Rhys Lloyd, S Quinton Teal, DT Tank Tyler, CB C.J. Wilson and T Rob Petitti.

— Darin Gantt

Posted by Observer Sports on March 2, 2010 at 09:11 AM | Permalink


Hey what kind of tender do you think Marshall and Tank Tyler will get? I really hate that it seems the Panthers are going cheap.

Posted by: Andy | Mar 2, 2010 9:33:52 AM

Lloyd should get the minimum, if anything. He really lost value last season in my estimation. Davis, Moore, Marshall, & King should be retained at all costs.

Posted by: Newsinz | Mar 2, 2010 9:47:35 AM

If they are going to go cheap then I want them to lower my season ticket prices.

Posted by: James Reed | Mar 2, 2010 10:05:08 AM

Andy I agree!

Posted by: CHUCK | Mar 2, 2010 10:07:03 AM

No way that TD or Moore should get the 1st and 3rd round tender.

No one is going to pony up a 1st round pick for a LB coming off of major knee surgery with the possibility of a lockout next year. I also doubt any team would give up a 1st round pick for Moore, but if they wanted to, it would get the Panthers back into the first round.

Save the million bucks on both tenders.

Posted by: Steve | Mar 2, 2010 10:17:52 AM

Put the highest tender on Thomas without a doubt. Give Moore the first round tender, and give Leonard the second round tender and give Tank the lowest tender since he was drafted in the third round or possibly even the second round tender. I only say this bc of the shallow DT market. Essentially we could get draft picks for either of these guys with the field being so devoid of DT FAs. With the college DTs being great at the top then not so much afterward; second round pick may be just where a team wants to draft one but may not get value for their pick there at the DT position. It would be better to trade for one and get a young guy who has actually played. Not sure Tyler is worth it just a market value sort of deal and depending on the market this could work out very well for us.

Posted by: JayJ6 | Mar 2, 2010 10:49:37 AM

Tender Tyler. So we can draft Terrence C from (BAMA) as out next great DT. To go along with Leonard, keep him.

TD would be worth a 1st rounder, if he was healthy throughout the yr. Sign him long term.

As for Matt M, he would be worth a 2nd-4th rounder at best. But don't give him away, let him start next season and if hes does well sign him longterm.

Keep Marshall and Anderson period.

Tender King, hes worth a draft pick, especially hes 1 of the best blocking TEnds in the league.

Posted by: josh smith | Mar 2, 2010 11:06:22 AM

Is Thomas Davis going to QB for us?

Posted by: fox has to go!! | Mar 2, 2010 11:10:13 AM


Posted by: jake | Mar 2, 2010 11:18:08 AM

Yeah I guess...

Posted by: fox has to go!! | Mar 2, 2010 11:21:59 AM

Oh sorry we still got Jake, we're fine! (Darin)

Posted by: fox has to go!! | Mar 2, 2010 11:24:19 AM

Forget about signing TD to a long term deal. Tender him for 1 yr and if hes plays well coming off his knee injury then sign him longterm.

I don't want to see Jake D as the QB again, give Moore a chance.

Let go Teal.

Posted by: josh smith | Mar 2, 2010 12:07:40 PM

In a recent interview with Atlanta based “DJ Drama” on his weekly program “Affiliates Radio,” Michael Vick was asked: “if you could choose any team in the league to play for, which team would you choose?"

Vick replied “The Carolina Panthers.”

Posted by: Jeff | Mar 2, 2010 12:13:44 PM

What do you guys think about Mardy Gilyard?

Posted by: Jeff | Mar 2, 2010 12:14:13 PM

We need 2 new wide recievers. One in the 2nd round, and one in free agency/trade.

Posted by: Jeff | Mar 2, 2010 12:14:50 PM

Vick will NEVER be a Panther(character ie Rae Carruth) and taking up a roster spot for a WR playing QB...nah! The Panthers need real FB players not 3Qb's and 2 kickers and a Wildcat QB which might get 5-6 snaps a game is NOT worth it...Or is 2 kickers get 1 that does it all Ko and FG.

Posted by: hellfish | Mar 2, 2010 12:30:53 PM

If we lose Moore, a guy who had to prove he's reliable and delivered, and rely on Delhomme again, who is past his time, AND don't pick up any decent QB in the draft, i'm done with the panthers.

Posted by: thaddeius Nightengale Corsolum Predarian | Mar 2, 2010 12:34:05 PM

I'm with you, but how long before a QB out of the draft is ready to make a difference?

Posted by: fox has to go!! | Mar 2, 2010 12:45:48 PM

the best idea i think is jake should forfeit his salary to pay the players who showed up last year and any free agents we might need. how about jake, give up that 12 million, you didn't earn it..

Posted by: tim | Mar 2, 2010 2:13:51 PM

I'd say watch out for Louis Leonard! From what I hear, the ankle has healed fine and the guy has been spending everyday training. This guy has talent and could potentially be a pro-bowler....If he stays injury free. Which I think he will.

Posted by: Panther D | Mar 2, 2010 2:18:12 PM

I would like to retain Davis and Moore at all costs. Start Moore at QB and have Jake as the back-up. Draft Jevon Snead in round 3 as the developmental 3rd stringer.
Draft a wide receiver in round 2, maybe Golden Tate or Taylor Price. Eric Decker is an alternate choice in a later round.

Posted by: GooseCreek | Mar 2, 2010 3:34:21 PM

raise your hand if your head would explode if jake ends up starting next year and we make the playoffs

Posted by: charlottean | Mar 2, 2010 3:40:00 PM

Ok so if we dont do anything at QB this year and drowned with delhomme or Moore flops then Fox and Hurney are probably out....... Im still betting and hoping that Bill Cowher wants the job........and if we flop that means high draft pick and how does Ryan Mallett sound....

oh could vick really be as bad as delhomme was last year?!?!?!

Posted by: Rudy | Mar 2, 2010 4:22:18 PM

Mardy Gilyard

Posted by: Jeff | Mar 2, 2010 4:32:51 PM

All are Unrestricted Free-Agents at WR -

Kevin Walter (Texans) *
Kelley Washington (Baltimore)
David Tyree (Baltimore)
Josh Reed (Buffalo)
Terrell Owens (Buffalo) *
Kassim Osgood (San Diego) *
Derrick Mason (Baltimore)
Brandon Lloyd (Denver)
Torry Holt (Jacksonville) *
Joey Galloway (New England)
Mike Furrey (Cleveland)
Chris Chambers (Kansas City) *
Nate Burleson (Seattle) *
Antonio Bryant (Tampa)
Arnaz Battle (San Fran)
Marty Booker (Atlanta)

I say pick up one of these guys particulary on of the guys with a "*" by their name, then draft a WR with our first pick in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Posted by: Jeff | Mar 2, 2010 5:37:21 PM

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