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April 14, 2010

Panthers have NFL's fewest QB starts

Elsewhere online and in today's Observer, we note that the Panthers lead the NFL in fewest career starts by quarterbacks currently on a team's roster.

Here's a breakdown of the teams with the least starting experience at the position:

1. Carolina -- 8 starts (Matt Moore 8, Hunter Cantwell 0)

2. St. Louis -- 19 starts (A.J. Feeley 15, Keith Null 4, Mike Reilly 0)

3. N.Y. Jets -- 24 starts (Mark Sanchez 15, Kellen Clemens 9)

4. Detroit -- 27 starts (Matthew Stafford 10, Shaun Hill 16, Drew Stanton 1)

5. Green Bay -- 32 starts (Aaron Rodgers 32, Matt Flynn 0, Chris Pizzotti 0)

6. Baltimore -- 38 starts (Joe Flacco 32, John Beck 4, Troy Smith 2)

7. Kansas City -- 39 starts (Matt Cassel 30, Brodie Coyle 9, Matt Guiterrez 0, Tyler Palko 0)

8. Atlanta -- 42 starts (Matt Ryan 30, Chris Redman 12, D.J. Shockley 0, John Parker Wilson 0)

It's worth noting that if Brett Favre is exempted from Minnesota's roster, since he hasn't formally declared he'll play next season, the Vikings still have more combined starts (31, 19 by Tarvaris Jackson and 12 by Sage Rosenfels) than any of the bottom four teams.

It's also interesting that after the recent release of long-time starter Marc Bulger, the only thing that prevented the Rams from having fewer starts than Carolina was the offseason signing of free agent A.J. Feeley, who spent last season playing behind Moore and Jake Delhomme with the Panthers.

-- Charles Chandler


Posted by Observer Sports on April 14, 2010 at 02:28 AM | Permalink


I don't understand why the Panthers don't sign Josh McCown to a two year deal. He has been in the system for two years and could run the offense if Moore gets hurts or flames out. There is no QB immediate help for us in the draft. We need to lock this down and the answer is right in front of us.

Posted by: Jimcat | Apr 14, 2010 6:43:55 AM

who cares?

Posted by: d | Apr 14, 2010 7:14:50 AM

brandon marshall for two 2nd round picks to the dolphins. santonio holmes to the jets for a 5th round pick. HMMMMM. HELLO? we need a wr! we gave up more for everette brown than these teams are for top tier wideouts.

i'll spare you all the fire hurney rant.

Posted by: john | Apr 14, 2010 8:20:09 AM

Yeah I understand how you feel John. But remember also that Brandon Marshall has had several (to put it nicely) off the field issues, that type of drama just wouldn't fit in around her.

Also, is reported hegot one of the richest contracts in NFL history. Why would we trade to pay that? It just goes against everything we have done this offseason. We try and pickup a steal in the draft with a low paying scale and save the big money for contract time for guys like Davis/Beason/Williams/Kahlil ect.

Posted by: Gamble20 | Apr 14, 2010 8:52:59 AM

WR's are nice but they don't get you to the superbowl. Marshall is not like a young Randy Moss or Terrell Owens. He is clearly very talented, but he lacks consistent speed, has a tendency to drop balls, and is absolutely worthless in the redzone which is surprising given his size.

Posted by: Gamble20 | Apr 14, 2010 8:55:36 AM

Marshalls contract is around 2.3 mil this year. remember he was tendered with the highest tender. he isnt carrying a big contract , unkike Ted Ginn jr, who should be availabe for a 4-5th round pick .

Posted by: Krueger | Apr 14, 2010 9:05:42 AM

It doesnt matter, the Panthers suck anyway!!!! They are gonna continue to suck for years to come until the team is sold!!!

Posted by: JD | Apr 14, 2010 9:16:29 AM

i would love to see ted ginn in a panther uniform. he is a dangerous punt returner and we could probably get him for next to nothing.he has the tools to be a solid #2 wideout.then we could address other needs in the 2nd round and we could still get a quality w.r in the 3rd.

Posted by: raydaz | Apr 14, 2010 9:17:43 AM

A ESPN sports writer was talking about how the Panthers have put D.Williams on the trading block, but keeping it under the radar. This better be BS! If we trade D.Williams I'm gonna be pissed!

Posted by: Cameron | Apr 14, 2010 9:23:59 AM

No krueger it WAS 2-3 million. But the Dolphins have signed him to a massive contract (which he demande to any team he was to be traded to). Probably in the vicinity of 8-11 million a year. ESPN says largest of any WR ever.

Posted by: Gamble20 | Apr 14, 2010 10:32:15 AM

Or one of the larges anyways.

I'd love Ted Ginn too but not for that money. He's getting paid top ten cash but he plays like a third round pick. Not worth it.

Posted by: Gamble20 | Apr 14, 2010 10:33:31 AM

Ted Ginn has more dropped balls than any other receiever in the NFL and he is afraid to take a hit. In the right system he might excel (Patriots, Colts) but in Carolina he would never get the coaching or player support (ie, Smitty).
The Panthers never showed any interest in Marshall or Holmes. Too many off field issues and attitude problems. There is only room for one high maintenance receiver on the Panthers roster and the spot is filled.
However, I do think TO could be a good citizen for one season. He can still get separation and has great hands. And he will block.

Posted by: Jimcat | Apr 14, 2010 10:36:29 AM

What is the deal on Tyler Thigpen in Miami? Would he be available for a price acceptable to the Panthers? Seems he would be the perfect back-up to Moore (capable but not pushing too hard).

Posted by: GooseCreek | Apr 14, 2010 11:11:17 AM

im not worried in the least bit about a backup.backup q.bs are a dime a dozen but the backup should be a veteran like a vick,mccown,bulger,garcia,brunell etc,etc.we will have a vet backup come august.what im worried about is the w.r situation.wideouts are a very dicey draft commodity.even if the panthers draft a wideout in rd 2 they cant seriously believe hes going to step in on day 1 and be a solid #2.ted ginn is not great but he solves 2 problems...return man and a decent receiver.we could probably get him for a 4th rounder.we are running out of options at w.r in free agency.

Posted by: raydaz | Apr 14, 2010 11:29:30 AM

Bring in Jeff Garcia to backup Matt Moore, it would be cheap and a sure insurance policy

Posted by: Al | Apr 14, 2010 11:40:34 AM

The Panthers are not HOPE "LESS" this years! with that said they are not HOPE "FULL" at the moment. The glass is half FULL/EMPTY.
Carolina's season will be push in one of these directions with the chooses they make in the draft. So lets think BIG! Hurney doesn't have the permission from owner Richardson to spend money so his only option is the draft and with no first rounder this year he will make a move up into the fist round because his coaches job is on the line. The panthers can't trade next years picks for this year because next year is the lock out! so how do you move into the first round then? You have to use what value you have on hand and trade a player to pick up picks. Hurney last two drafts were good but this year has to be his best!
With all that said this is how I would go Big if I was Hurney!
1ST- Trade D.Williams and the 48th pick to the miami Dolphins for the 12th,43rd,and Ted Gin Jr. or 73rd pick
2nd- with the 12th pick You take DE-Morgan/WR-DezBryant or my favorite trade down and pick up a extra pick in the 4th.
3rd-this is were it get tricky (depending on what you did in set 1 and 2) Dallas Cowgirls trade there 1st and 4th to move up to the 12th and take DezBryant, Caroline moves down to the 27th and takes WR Golden Tate!
4th- We moved up to the 43rd spot(step 1) and take Colt McCoy/Tim Tebow!
I said think BIG! you might not like these trades but if Carolina's glass is to "fill up" something is got to happen and the Draft is the Panthers last chance this year to do it with out spending money on free agents!

Posted by: blueblurring | Apr 14, 2010 12:04:03 PM

Anyone who wants to trade Williams is an absolute complete moron

Posted by: Gamble20 | Apr 14, 2010 1:10:03 PM

Not a Panthers fan


Why do people consist a team to trade a "proven" for a "unproven" player that u don't know how he will turn out to be.

If the Panthers trade up, that would lead them with very few picks to address their other issues.

If Marshall doesn't want to be with the team, trade him for a high 2nd rounder. But y'all would be dumdasses to trade Williams away, unless u can get a 1st.

Im hearing Mike G will have to change his position from RB to WR.

Bascially Mr. Richardson is setting both Hurney/Fox to fail, point blank.

Posted by: josh smith | Apr 14, 2010 1:14:15 PM

If trading Williams is moronic. What players do the panthers have that another team would want to try to move up in the draft? Please let me know. Ok I got it, they have no one!!!! So trading Williams is not so moronic you idiot!!!!

Posted by: JD | Apr 14, 2010 1:18:39 PM

If trading Williams is moronic. What players do the panthers have that another team would want to try to move up in the draft? Please let me know. Ok I got it, they have no one!!!! So trading Williams is not so moronic you idiot!!!!

Posted by: JD | Apr 14, 2010 1:18:41 PM

If trading Williams is moronic. What players do the panthers have that another team would want to try to move up in the draft? Please let me know. Ok I got it, they have no one!!!! So trading Williams is not so moronic you idiot!!!!

Posted by: JD | Apr 14, 2010 1:18:45 PM

Wow Tim T is a project, y'all need no more of them.

Williams is a beast, but to give him up and draft J Best, a injury prone RB is a laugher.

The Dolphins aren't going to accept the Panthers offer, they already have a RB in Brown/Williams

Keep the picks and trade Marshall for a high draft pick.

Posted by: josh smith | Apr 14, 2010 1:19:48 PM

Trading Williams would be beyond moronic.

Posted by: Ashe | Apr 14, 2010 1:23:03 PM

Trading Williams would be beyond moronic.

Posted by: Ashe | Apr 14, 2010 1:23:17 PM

Please tell me what the Panthers can offer up in a trade. Please tell me, I would like some insite!

Posted by: JD | Apr 14, 2010 2:10:15 PM

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