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May 02, 2010

Sunday morning minicamp thoughts

    A few random thoughts before heading out to the final minicamp practice in a few:

    -- Say this about Panthers management, they don't let problem areas stay problems long.

    Think back to the 2005 NFC Championship Game, which they lost in large part because they ran out of running backs. That's when they started collecting them in earnest, using first round picks on DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart.

    This year, you can see the emphasis on adding young QBs and WRs to the pipeline.

    The four passers they have here at the moment are arguably more talented than any such group they've had. Usually there are guys at the end of the line who you can tell can't play, but all four are competent throwers of the football. Matt Moore's got the experience edge, Jimmy Clausen may be the most accurate, but Hunter Cantwell and Tony Pike are each intriguing in their own way. 

    Cantwell may have the strongest arm of the bunch, and while Pike's very raw, he's got a little something about him as well.

    New WR coach Tyke Tolbert raved about his group of wideouts, saying it felt like "Christmas every day for me."

    He said he's been encouraged by the work of Dwayne Jarrett (though we've heard that before this time of year), and loves the potential of Brandon LaFell and Armanti Edwards.

    Tolbert said he liked the fact Edwards hasn't played WR since high school, since it means he has no bad habits.

    -- Mentioned this in the notebook this morning, but the Panthers lack of depth in the secondary is going to have them crossing fingers all year.

    Once you get past Chris Gamble and absentee Richard Marshall, all the CBs on the roster are either seventh-round picks or undrafted. And as much as they like Sherrod Martin and Charles Godfrey, your backup safeties are journeyman Aaron Francisco and rookie Jordan Pugh.

    Veteran DB Marcus Hudson has been taking most of his work at safety, and his experience playing both could earn him a shot at some of the Dante Wesley work.

    -- One of last year's preseason stars is back at it again.

    RB Mike Goodson, who never really found a role once the season began, continues to flash when the pads are stored in the closet.

    He's getting more chances for one, with Williams and Stewart on the sidelines.

    But Goodson has ballerina feet, and can do things which make you wonder what he's capable if the light goes on.

    -- So hard to tell anything about linemen this time of year, and it borders on being useless in terms of evaluation. However, it's clear the Panthers have to hope for breakout seasons from DTs Tank Tyler and Corvey Irvin and a bounce-back from Ed Johnson or they could be in line for a 2009-level disaster in the interior defensive line.

    The true and concerning statement about this defensive line? Bow-legged run-stopper Louis Leonard is the known commodity. That's right, the guy who started one game before breaking his leg on the final play of the Atlanta game.

— Darin Gantt

Posted by Observer Sports on May 2, 2010 at 08:38 AM | Permalink


Hey, it wasn't Dwayne's fault greasy-hands Jake couldn't deliver the ball. He was always looking for Smitty, and alway waiting until a receiver had 1 mile of separation before delivering.

Posted by: T | May 2, 2010 9:18:26 AM

Oh wonderful another Dwayne Jarrett excuse giver. Face it, Jarrett sucks! I mean just look at him, he doesn't even look like an NFL player. He's just a bust you guys need to face it and move on already.

Out depth is pretty bad. QB and RB are pretty much the only positions Im okay with losing a player or two, and that's assuming at least 3 of those 4 QBs are good (highly unlikely). Normally we have injury plagued seasons every other year so maybe this year is the one where most of our starters stay intact.

Posted by: Gamble20 | May 2, 2010 10:39:48 AM

I'm hoping and thinking we find another good DT before camp begins. Still don't know why the Panthers ignored that dire need in the draft. Looking for Sherrod Martin, E Norwood, Dan Connor and Hardy to step up and really contribute. Offense is looking really promising. And once again... Jarrett's inability to catch passes IN HIS HANDS was NOT Jake's fault.

Posted by: Ron | May 2, 2010 11:33:20 AM

What a negative article...this article read like someone from Atlanta wrote. I am not asking for lies or positive spins on everything but this was almost a bit dismal.

Posted by: Marvin | May 2, 2010 2:33:16 PM

Clausen is the most accurate throwing to the defense.

Posted by: TheCasualObserver | May 2, 2010 3:07:17 PM

Yeah, cause Clausen threw a whopping 4 INT's last year!!!

Posted by: T | May 2, 2010 3:21:43 PM

Dwayne Jarrett dropping passes? Im pretty sure it was because he wasn't thrown to a lot, although I could be mistaken. I just heard it was because he couldn't comprehend a playbook and kept forgetting routes.

Posted by: Machida | May 2, 2010 3:24:54 PM

Why all the hate on Clausen guys?? We'll have to wait and see before we love/hate him. Machida & T- It's not that Dwayne Jarrett drops passes, your right, It's that JD did not throw to him when he WAS on the field. The reason he WASN'T on the field alot was because he doesn't know how to run his routes right. Which is very sad when you been in the league as long as he has. Brandon LaFell is the ball dropper.

Posted by: Scuba Steve | May 2, 2010 3:38:17 PM

I am gonna dread when we're on defense against a good running team :(

Posted by: Davis84 | May 2, 2010 3:41:05 PM

We have no depth at DL!!!

Posted by: Nate | May 2, 2010 3:47:03 PM

Dwayne Jarrett = BUST!!!! Now let's hurry up and see if Brandon LaFell is one (and I hope not). No more time needs to be spent on Jarrett. Let him go play for his old coach in Seattle aka USC Alumni.

Posted by: Growl2007 | May 2, 2010 3:51:19 PM

i hope they can find a role for goodson but fox is great at NOT utilizing talent i want to see goodson in the slot.hopefully he wont end up in foxes doghouse again for another year.to all the sky is falling crowd,why dont we play a few games before you declare a state of emergency.i love this young group that hurney has assembled.im pumped up to enter a season without jake screwing things up.my prediction... 10 and 6.

Posted by: raydaz | May 2, 2010 5:45:58 PM

Offensive Coordinator Jeff Davidson has plenty of ingredients at his disposal to make a tasty offense this season. I too am worried about our run stopping. This will have to be a bend but don't break Defense that capitalizes on their opponents mistakes. The D might just have the speed to do this. And hopefully this being Meeks second season installing his Cover 2 scheme, Beason and Davis can turn this D into something a lot of people do not think it can be. Productive.

Posted by: John | May 2, 2010 8:20:48 PM

That is the virtually the same camp I saw. However, there were other things:

-David Gettis was the fastest man in the mini-camp

-Dwayne Jarrett did look well

-The Panthers are loaded at linebacker...Jamar Williams looked as good as anyone

-The defensive line is probably the best ensemble they have since Jenkins was here. Tank was a 4-3 DT who was being used as a 3-4 d-lineman and was not able to transition successfully. Louis Leonard has the chance to be a top 15 defensive tackle.

-Jordan Pugh looked great...

-Greg Hardy seems to have almost as much potential of any rookie the team drafted. he was quick off of the ball.

-Finally the qbs looked pretty sharp but don't be fooled by this article. When the padless scrimmage went down Matt Moore was the "man"..not the ND wonderboy

Posted by: Lazercatfan | May 3, 2010 4:59:42 AM

>>>>Clausen is the most accurate throwing to the defense.

Have you ever seen him play? I did, for 3 years. He is so accurate it is unreal. His interception ratio is the lowest of the low. He is a phenom and you will eat your words.

Posted by: Rottie1003 | May 3, 2010 11:58:48 AM

"Face it," Jarrett did well when Moore was delivering the ball (and distributing it). Give the guy a (real) chance.

Posted by: SYRPIS | May 3, 2010 6:51:19 PM

David gettis is not the fastest player there...Dexter jackson is

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Posted by: Gasoline | May 4, 2010 4:14:24 AM

i love that a guy named "Gamble20" is talking about how Jarrett sucks. At least he's not sucky AND overpaid (Chris Gamble). Face it, Gamble sucks too cool guy!

Posted by: Zeke | May 4, 2010 12:20:31 PM

I love how blogs about the panthers just turn out to be one Idiot saying that a certain player sucks, then the other Idiot says, "my player dosnt suck as much as yours". You are all childish and not very football knowledgable. For the record YOU SUCK

Posted by: zach | May 4, 2010 2:24:33 PM

@ Zach -

Thank you. I wish people on here would cite stats or something objective other than innuendo or uneducated opinion on players. But we will always have these types of comments on here as long as we live in a free country.

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