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July 12, 2010

The long odds of summer

    With a little over two weeks to kill before training camp starts, fans and gamblers are getting a little itchy for football to start. 

    That's created some interesting discussion about where the Carolina Panthers fit into the big picture of the league. One gambling website (bodog.com) has put the over-under on Panthers wins at 7.5 (+$115 for the over, -$145 for the under), and since their history points to 7-9 being the floor, that seems a good place to start the discussion. 

    For the most part, the national preview magazines have reached the consensus that the Panthers should finish third in the NFC South, ahead of Tampa Bay but well behind defending champ New Orleans and Atlanta. 

    With all the turnover, all the inexperience in key positions and all the unanswered questions going into camp, uncertainty reigns. So are they under the radar, or there for good reason?

 — Darin Gantt

    

Posted by Observer Sports on July 12, 2010 at 11:44 AM | Permalink

Comments

Why don't they allow sports betting in every state? Publish the odds in every paper, but no tax revenue in the state except for Nevada and now Delaware (maybe)! It doesn't make sense or cents!!!

Posted by: KevinMc | Jul 12, 2010 12:21:51 PM

I'm worried about the offense. Outside of Smith, we have no NFL caliber receivers. Opponents can simply double cover Smith and stack the line expecting run every down. The Panthers wouldn't score more than 10-13 pts per game. With our inexperienced D, that isn't going to be enough...I hope I'm wrong, but I'd predict under 7.5. I'll say 6-10.

NYG - Loss
TB - Win
Cinci - Win
NO - Loss
Chi - Loss
SF - Win
STL - Win
NO - Loss
TB - Loss
BAl - Loss
Cle - Win
Sea - Win
Atl - Loss
Ari - Loss
Pitt - Loss
Atl - Loss

Posted by: Miller | Jul 12, 2010 12:22:48 PM

4-12. Its gonna be a long season. No way can they stop the run and the pass d will be worse due to lack of consistent pass rush. I think the O has a chance to be much better later in the season but I wouldnt bet the house on it.

Posted by: mikey | Jul 12, 2010 12:35:25 PM

4-12. Its gonna be a long season. No way can they stop the run and the pass d will be worse due to lack of consistent pass rush. I think the O has a chance to be much better later in the season but I wouldnt bet the house on it.

Posted by: mikey | Jul 12, 2010 12:35:25 PM

I think we will start out slow but end strong. Look how beat up the D-line was last year but still had very good results. Moore had no problem finding Smith last season despite a lack of a #2 and we will have a better stock of WR's this season.
People can complain about Fox all ya want but he has a way of beating the odds. He hasn't had a double digit loss season yet and it won't happen this season either.

Posted by: pland67 | Jul 12, 2010 12:46:58 PM

NYG - Win
TB - Win
Cinci - Win
NO - Loss
Chi - Win
SF - Loss
STL - Win
NO - Win
TB - Loss
BAl - Loss
Cle - Win
Sea - Loss
Atl - Win
Ari - Win
Pitt - Win
Atl - Loss

So, i guess i'm saying we go 10-6, or maybe 9-7.

But honestly the team is almsot brand new. We could be mediocre, or we could suck, or we could be super bowl champs. There are so many questions how could someone possibly know?

Posted by: Gamble20 | Jul 12, 2010 1:05:24 PM

9-7, last team to not make playoffs. Lots of youth on defense will hurt, especially early. The offense has the potential to be very explosive, depending on how well Armanti & LaFell develop and if Jarrett can produce anything. Also, take into account our history against certain clubs (we have only lost to an Ohio team once in team history, we usually split with Atlanta, etc.)

NYG - Win
TB - Win
Cinci - Loss
NO - Loss
Chi - Loss
SF - Win
STL - Win
NO - Loss
TB - Win
Bal - Loss
Cle - Win
Sea - Win
Atl - Win
Ari - Loss
Pitt - Win
Atl - Loss

Posted by: J | Jul 12, 2010 1:08:12 PM

Definitely under the radar, but in order to have a chance to win it all the Panthers will need 4 or 5 players to step up and go from being average to great at just the fight time.

If the Panthers rededicate themselves to the run as well and don't fly off the handle and go pass-crazy-pass during the playoffs, it'll help very much as well. A lot of this season hangs on Matt Moore. If we can complete consistently on 3rd down, we'll go 11-5 or 12-4

Posted by: Revshawn | Jul 12, 2010 1:14:36 PM

Its far too early to predict wins & losses. For 1, you dont know who is even playing yet on the Panthers team. For 2, you dont even know who is playing on the opponents teams. Lets let 4 games play, then you will get an idea of how well the teams are playing, all the teams not just the Panthers. Predicting the Panthers games is in effect predicting the other teams wins or losses & as much as everyone follows the Panthers here, they cant follow every opponent of the Panthers this season to know how well they will be doing. For all anyone knows, the good treams from last year will suck this year & the bad ones can become great. But here is my misinformed prediction, 13-3, they win the division & make the nfc game.

Posted by: MrBernz | Jul 12, 2010 1:36:06 PM

I think we will either go 10 - 6, or 11 - 5. We have a pretty easy schedule.

Posted by: panthers24 | Jul 12, 2010 1:45:52 PM

The Panthers have a lot of good, young talent. The potential is there to be a very good team for a while. Maybe not this season but the future looks bright. GO PANTHERS!!

Posted by: Mike | Jul 12, 2010 3:00:26 PM

The Panthers have a lot of good, young talent. The potential is there to be a very good team for a while. Maybe not this season but the future looks bright. GO PANTHERS!!

Posted by: Mike | Jul 12, 2010 3:00:26 PM

@Mikey,


What odds you wanna give on that 4-12? Make sure you can afford the payout!

Posted by: Scott | Jul 12, 2010 3:02:32 PM

@Mikey,


What odds you wanna give on that 4-12? Make sure you can afford the payout!

Posted by: Scott | Jul 12, 2010 3:02:42 PM

14-2. John Fox rests his key players the last two weeks of the season. Steve Smith films commercials with Peyton Manning.

Posted by: Nosebleed fan | Jul 12, 2010 3:48:49 PM

NYG - Loss
TB - Win
Cinci - Win
NO - Loss
Chi - Loss
SF - Win
STL - Win
NO - Loss
TB - Loss
BAl - Loss
Cle - Win
Sea - Win
Atl - Loss
Ari - Loss
Pitt - Loss
Atl - Loss
Posted by: Miller | Jul 12, 2010 12:22:48 PM


Let me get this straight. You think the panthers will only win 1 division game? Even in our worst years with Fox we have more wins than that. Im not trying to attack you but you should probably give the division games a little more thought. Anywho....my predictions:
NYG - Win
TB - Win
Cinci - Loss
NO - Win
Chi - Win
SF - Win
STL - Win
NO - Loss
TB - Win
BAl - Loss
Cle - Win
Sea - Win
Atl - Win
Ari - Win
Pitt - Win
Atl - Loss

Posted by: BIGCAT83 | Jul 12, 2010 5:36:42 PM

Why no faith in Ron Meeks' defense? It's not exactly like he had a ton of weapons in Indianapolis. The defense is very fast and has a knack for forcing turnovers. They'll be fine.

Posted by: Al | Jul 12, 2010 5:50:12 PM

Under. With basically no shot at the playoffs, they'll start playing the young kids early as they (sadly) usher Fox out the door.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 12, 2010 8:28:12 PM

It may be cliche', but it is true; every football game hinges on the trenches. Our defensive line is a question mark. No one knows how they are going to hold up. That fact, combined with all the other new and unproven faces that will be cracking the Panthers starting line-up make it impossible to make a good prediction how the season will go. This team could go 12-4 just as likely as 4-12. We'll have a better idea by the end of August. It will definitely make pre-season more interesting.

Posted by: Harris | Jul 12, 2010 9:39:54 PM

11-5 if not better, we have a very friendly schedule. There is no rough part of this year's schedule. The offense will be good enough to get us through the 1st part of the season, giving the Defense time to gel.I see some playoff experience for our very young and talented team.

Posted by: ronwon | Jul 12, 2010 10:44:22 PM

I think the Panthers will be fine. The last game of the season on the 2nd of January will decide the NFC-S. It will come down to that last game between ATL and Carolina.
This season will be alot like some of the seasons past-- there will be times when it seems that they are doomed, times when they seem indomitable. There will be the fans who are crying for people to be fired and fans screaming about the superbowl.
What will happen past Jan.2? I'm not guessing, but mark it down that the division WILL come down to ATL v Car on Jan 02,2011.

Posted by: Bailey | Jul 12, 2010 10:47:27 PM

yall do realize that boldin and warner and dansby and others aren't in arizona anymore right? i'm not saying they're garbage but i don't understand why the majority of you are expecting to lose that game.

not to mention usually when they don't have expectations, they succeed. when they do, they flop. this year might be a sneaky 10-6 year.

Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2010 10:53:31 PM

Number four seed or wildcard minimum, and despite that accomplishment, they will still be underrated and go deep into the playoffs.

GO FOX! GO PANTHERS!!

Posted by: SYRPIS | Jul 13, 2010 12:21:43 AM

Win their division or a wildcard spot minimum, and despite that accomplishment, they will still be underrated and go deep into the playoffs.

GO FOX! GO PANTHERS!!

Posted by: SYRPIS | Jul 13, 2010 5:02:48 AM

At first while reading through these comments I started thinking that I was the only fan here that thinks we have a potentially great team. Going undefeated has been ringing in my ears and if our guy's did have a full season under them then maybe that wouldn't be too far fetched. 11-5 for this team and freakin deadly in the playoffs is where I stand. Were deadly and they don't know it so yeah certainly under the radar.
MrBernz. Your right, it is too early to tell but for me all I did was think about my beloved Panthers for the last ten years, realized what this dramatic change that we have had this off season really could mean and then know that in key positions we have some excellent veterans. Along with good coaching and new ideas my optimism is through the roof. Grrrrr guess I do still have to watch them play as a unit. Take care and let's win. GO PANTHERS!!

Posted by: mr.mrgarcia | Jul 13, 2010 9:46:32 AM

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