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August 30, 2010

Make sure WR upgrade is one

It started yesterday, and it's going to continue for the next week.

With Sunday's news that wide receivers Laveranues Coles (Jets) and Antonio Bryant (Bengals) were released yesterday, my twitter (@daringantt) practically exploded.

"Will the Panthers sign Bryant?" "Why not Coles?" "With the team needing receiver help, which one will they sign?"

The correct answer, you better hope, is neither. The Panthers might not be averse to adding help at the receiver position (especially if Wallace Wright's shoulder turns out to be a problem), but these two aren't it.

Coles is done, a good idea five years ago, but not now.

Bryant made franchise money a year ago in Tampa and responded with 39 catches. He then signed a Mark Knopfler contract with the Bengals (Money for Nothing) and they cut him before he played a game. He's clearly not healthy, and even if he was I'm not sure you'd want to go there.

The Panthers insist their second receiver is already here. They're more confident than I am. Certainly they need to keep an eye on the waiver wire for upgrades. They just have to make sure that anyone they bring in actually represents an upgrade.


—- Darin Gantt

Posted by Observer Sports on August 30, 2010 at 07:55 AM | Permalink

Comments

Coles is a has-been that would not serve any useful purpose here. Bryant is so broken down that he cannot run on the field. We would be much wiser to wait another week and see if someone else pops up. Or perhaps someone could just remind our current receivers that the point of that position is to CATCH THE FOOTBALL.

Posted by: AppGrad04 | Aug 30, 2010 8:33:36 AM

Darrin, hang em out there and answer this question truthfully. Did we miss the bus by not hitting on bolden four months ago?

Posted by: stork302 | Aug 30, 2010 9:03:33 AM

It's a moot point about Boldin. JR just wasn't going to pay the kind of bucks it took to get him. I wish for one we had just resigned Moose and Hoover. Fiametta dropped a screen pass Sat. night that Hoover always caught.

Posted by: Ron | Aug 30, 2010 9:24:33 AM

The only WR that I think we could upgrade by getting is Vincent Jackson. Considering that we don't have a 2nd rounder in 2011 I doubt we can get him. I definitely wouldn't want to use our 1st rounder on him. The Chargers probably want at least a 2nd rounder for him. That leaves us out on Jackson. I like the talent at the WR position but I don't know if anyone on our roster not named Steve Smith is ready for primetime. I have a feeling Lafell or Jarrett Will be OK. That may be all we need when all is said and done. Once this team starts running the ball 55%-60% of the time this offense will look a lot better than it has so far. They need to clean up the penalties too. They have cost this team several scores this preseason.

Posted by: Smiley | Aug 30, 2010 9:26:25 AM

Boldin is a 29 year old injury prone WR. Why waist $28 million on him? When was the last time he even played all 16 games a year? I recall 4 years ago, was the last time.

The Cardinals was playing much better without him.

Brandon M would have been the right choice. Hes the worth money, but brings to much off the field problems.

Maybe if the Panthers knew how to develop receivers, it wouldn't be much of a problem. Even though the receiving core is ver young/unexperience.

Posted by: adam carter | Aug 30, 2010 9:30:26 AM

A Edwards should be cut. Im sure that will free up some money to pick someone up after the other teams make their cuts!! Hows that sound Darin?

Posted by: JD | Aug 30, 2010 9:33:48 AM

He leads the team in receptions in the preseason why would you cut him? becasue he messed up 2 punts?? he wasnt the only one thats fumbled a punt this preseason.

Posted by: L | Aug 30, 2010 9:36:47 AM

if we were looking at a team that was 1 receiver away from a legit contender, you go out and sign a vet. but with the group we've got? no you give those reps to the young'ns to get them ready for next year. lafell, moore, gettis, and even edwards already look like legitimate no. 3-5 receivers in this league and lafell looks like he could easily step up and be the 2. you gotta remember these guys will look a lot better with jonathan stewart and steve smith out there with them.

receiver is only a problem because we have to pick which ones we keep out of a group of about 6 or 7 that don't really stand out from each other. and we have 3 SOLID veteran tight ends to balance it out.

let the young'ns play up to potential.

Posted by: charlottean | Aug 30, 2010 9:52:27 AM

Adam you need to start looking at stats before you make yourself look rediculous.... Edwards leads the team in receptions YTD .... Good talk though.

Posted by: LP | Aug 30, 2010 9:55:08 AM

No receiver can help if there isn't a QB who can get him the ball. The Panthers paid one of the best in the league to go play for someone else (where he is doing great with a supposedly sub-par receiving corps, 38 of 48 passing with 2 TDs and no INTs) Matt Moore looks lost out there and while Clausen seems more comfortable he is a rookie and continues to make poor decisions while mishandling the a high percentage of snaps. If Moore cant pull it together in the first half at NY they should go wildcat like Weinke's last year. With Armanti Edwards in the backfield at least the opposition would have to respect the THREAT of a pass.

Posted by: Jeffrey Mooney | Aug 30, 2010 10:06:56 AM

Darin is right on in this blog. I am beginning to like the receivers we have and I think they'll be fine in the preseason.

Posted by: MajorLeague | Aug 30, 2010 10:08:42 AM

I meant regular season.

Posted by: MajorLeague | Aug 30, 2010 10:09:24 AM

Darin,

When will the Panthers announce their first cuts?

Posted by: Tommy | Aug 30, 2010 10:12:46 AM

So Jake has a good preseason and he one of the best in the league? Seriously he had a decent preseason for us last year. How'd that work out? Just wait until D's are planning for the patented Delhomme floaters and then we'll see what his stats are like.

Moore does not look lost at all. He is making his reads and his checkdowns. If receivers would hold on to it and O lineman would stop killing drives with stupid penalties he'd have better stats as well.

Posted by: John | Aug 30, 2010 10:30:16 AM

Cutting Edwards would save you maybe $250K and he will end up playing elsewhere on a team that is willing to let him learn the position. So BAD CALL there Adam. How about we cut Jarrett who has been getting paid millions for 5 years to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. If we want to throw people who has under-performed under the the bus, then point out the real problems not the rookie who everyone knows is gonna be a project.

Posted by: AppGrad04 | Aug 30, 2010 10:33:21 AM

@LP

Make myself look rediculous? Seriously? When was the last time they had a WR produce, besides Smith, Ricky P, and Moose?

Im not saying they will be horrible, they are just to young/unexperience. Good talk with you thoug, lmfao.

Oh btw, pre-season means nothing. Lets see how Edwards progress during the regular season. You know, when games begins to count.

Posted by: adam carter | Aug 30, 2010 10:33:33 AM

When Smitty and Stewart come back this offense will open up. Be patient and watch. Our defense is going to be special this year and this team will do alot better than everyone thinks. GO PANTHERS!!!!

Posted by: patdaddy | Aug 30, 2010 10:34:18 AM

@AppGrad04

WTF are you talking about? I didn't say cut Edwards. That was (JD), who had consider the Panthers cutting him.

Posted by: adam carter | Aug 30, 2010 10:35:45 AM

How about we Trade Dwayne Jarrett /w a 6 round draft pick,to the chargers for one of their back up WR. Lafell is not ready for the #2 role he is more like #3 WR. All we need is a #2 WR that can catch a ball in case Smith is under pressure with 2-3 CB on him.

Posted by: Bruce | Aug 30, 2010 11:30:30 AM

@Ron- I have seen Hoover drop many a ball thrown his way. He was a really good blocker. Fiametta was known as a pass catcher out of college. Don't dog the guy out because he dropped 1 pass.
Lets hope Dallas cuts Crayton. I'd go after him for the #2 spot. Not someone who you'd have to pay big money for, but definitly a good band-aid while the younger ones decide who wants to be the guy.

Posted by: DaveT | Aug 30, 2010 11:32:36 AM

I think Crayton would definitely be a good pickup if the cowboys release him...a decent #2 that could also return punts for the panthers as well.

Posted by: TK | Aug 30, 2010 11:50:53 AM

Terrell Hudgins was just released by the Cowboys. Time to pick him up.

Posted by: Geoff | Aug 30, 2010 2:30:13 PM

Edwards is the panthers best QB by far, but the Panthers fans would rather play 3 games without an offensive td. I wonder if these underachieing fans even know who has caught the most passes for them this pre-season. I've been watching football for 50 years and have never seen anything like the whining know-it-alls who call themselves panther fans - primerily relating to the drafting of Edwards. I hope they trade him so ther panthers fans can have their dream of being the Atlanta falcons.

Posted by: h a lewis | Aug 30, 2010 3:07:05 PM

1. It is too soon to give up on the Panther's young QBs or receivers. Prime time will tell the story.

2. A more imaginative and open offense would do more than anything to make the QBs and ends more productive. So maybe the real change should be in the coaching staff

3. Edwards will be fine at receiver. He looks more confident with each game, and one day he'll get one in the open field and show everybody exactly why he was drafted.

4. I will not say Edwards is the best QB on the team without seeing him play. However it is a mistake to think of him just in the wildcat formation. He has a strong, accurate arm and can go deep or lay the ball on the sidelines. Think of him as a Doug Flutie type with more speed.

5. Finally, anybody who thinks the return of the starters won't lift the whole offense doesn't know spirit and morale. I just hope Jon Fox and the offensive co-ordinator catch some of it.

Posted by: Caliban | Aug 30, 2010 3:29:53 PM

We had opportunities to land a decent receiver to augment Smitty.
Could have had Brandon Marshall...
Could have made a play for Vincent Jackson...after dumping all those players and all that cash, we could have went after one of those.
We could have taken TO for a 1 year deal for $1M; that would have been a steal.
Instead we counted on the draft...LaFell will be good in two-three years, maybe four...
We don't develop receivers that well; if Jarrett was drafted by NOLA he would have 15 TD's by now.
The Panthers only use free agency to lose players or to pickup 3rd stringers to fill out depth.
Why was Wallace Wright even on the field as a receiver against Tennessee? He's supposed to be for special teams.
Fox needs to go Jarrett #2 and LaFell #3 and stick with it; the only way anyone gets better is with playing time.
They need reps during game #4 ... the offense needs to move the football.

Posted by: SCPOAB | Aug 30, 2010 3:34:23 PM

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