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August 09, 2010

Monday morning: Getting guys back

    The Panthers returned to camp Monday morning, and as expected, got a few bodies back. That helps, because last week got a little short in terms of being able to do their work efficiently.

    Five guys — RB Tyrell Sutton, TE Jamie Petrowski and D-linemen Nick Hayden, Eric Moore and Hilee Taylor — were back to work, leaving just 11 on the sidelines.


    -- The Panthers made a pair of roster moves to get some more capable offensive linemen in, signing Jason Capizzi and Andrew Crummey. To make room on the roster, they released unimpressive undrafted rookies Kurtis Gregory and Noah Franklin.

    "We had a chance to look at those two guys, now we've got two other guys," Panthers coach John Fox said, summing it up.

    Capizzi and Crummey have been with a combined 12 NFL teams now, mostly stints in camps and practice squads. The 6-foot-9 Carpizzi (who bears an on-field resemblance to Matt Willig) even played in the UFL, adding yet another sticker to his suitcase.


    -- Panthers worked on their four-minute offense for a good chunk of Monday morning. In that segment, they'd try to practice protecting a lead. Sutton, using his Northwestern education, wisely got down inbounds to keep the clock rolling.


    -- QB Jimmy Clausen had good moments and bad. He threw a bullet to TE Dante Rosario in the back of the end zone, but also bobbled two snaps in a five-minute span. Without seeing the play twice, it's hard to tell if it was his fault of C Steve Justice, but the result is unacceptable.


    -- Always dangerous to read too much into camp depth charts, but they are giving WRs Brandon LaFell and Wallace Wright work with the ones in the place of Dwayne Jarrett and Kenny Moore.

    It's the kind of rotation that's common in many spots, and actually points more to how impressed they've been with LaFell and Wright than disappointed in Jarrett or Moore.


    -- Much in the same way you can tell they want giant RG Duke Robinson to win a starting job, it's easy to see they want WR Armanti Edwards returning punts.

    They're giving him a ton of reps in practice, hoping to get him comfortable enough to trust him during games. We've pretty much seen what Moore and Captain Munnerlyn can do back there, and they think Edwards offers more upside.


    -- CB Chris Gamble (knee) was still out of practice. At this point, anyone who's not practicing today you can almost scratch for Thursday's preseason opener at Baltimore.


-- Darin Gantt

Posted by Observer Sports on August 9, 2010 at 11:40 AM | Permalink

Comments

Since receiver play is still iffy, I hope Panthers keep an eye on waiver wire for Terrell Hudgins name. He's the WR who set NCAA Div I receiving records at Elon last year, and made a great diving catch on a low ball for the Cowboys last night. Of course if he continues to impress like that, the 'boys might keep him. But they've got a lot of good receivers already.

Posted by: Ron | Aug 9, 2010 12:23:18 PM

Thanks for the update, Darin. Good information.

Posted by: PurrDurham | Aug 9, 2010 12:26:50 PM

It takes a Northwestern education to stay in bounds with a lead?

Posted by: Ric Flair | Aug 9, 2010 12:42:54 PM

Good observation Ron.. my concern is with the wide receivers as well but also with punt/ kick returns. I complained most aggressively about the panthers not drafting any high QB's or making trades for talented QB's and we finally got smart and drafted Clausen... but it's also painfully obvious that Fox/ Hurney don't value the kick/ punt returner position. Most we've done is bring in guys cut by other teams and put rookies with no real return experience back there. Then we bounce back to a veteran/ starter who's familiar with it but shouldn't be out there risking injury. Look guys just pick up a real punt/ kick returner (draft or waiver) and deal with 5 yr.'s less average than some superstar rookie who's going to turn the ball over! Forget Armanti and go JC Penny, no turn over is better than 5 yr. more average returns! Bring him in later in the year when he's caught 15-20 consistent punts in practice with no bobbles.

Posted by: handyman | Aug 9, 2010 12:45:08 PM

Good observation Ron.. my concern is with the wide receivers as well but also with punt/ kick returns. I complained most aggressively about the panthers not drafting any high QB's or making trades for talented QB's and we finally got smart and drafted Clausen... but it's also painfully obvious that Fox/ Hurney don't value the kick/ punt returner position. Most we've done is bring in guys cut by other teams and put rookies with no real return experience back there. Then we bounce back to a veteran/ starter who's familiar with it but shouldn't be out there risking injury. Look guys just pick up a real punt/ kick returner (draft or waiver) and deal with 5 yr.'s less average than some superstar rookie who's going to turn the ball over! Forget Armanti and go JC Penny, no turn over is better than 5 yr. more average returns! Bring him in later in the year when he's caught 15-20 consistent punts in practice with no bobbles.

Posted by: handyman | Aug 9, 2010 12:45:08 PM

I would love to see Edwards cement himself as the punt return specialist and work his way onto the field with the offense over time. His career path will likely mirror that of Steve Smith in years 1-2. Though it is likely wishful thinking, it would also be great to see Dexter Jackson sneak in as the kick returner. He struggled in Tampa but it is hard to argue with 4.27 40-yard speed.

Posted by: AppGrad04 | Aug 9, 2010 12:46:27 PM

Didnt they bring Wright in as a returner too? Wasnt he proven as a returner on special teams? Handyman, what are they supposed to do? If a team doesnt cut a good player how are they supposed to get a good 1? Your comment said they bring in players other teams cut, i just dont follow how else theyre supposed to get a proven player? Do you want them to out bid another team for a player? This team has built a pretty dang good team from the draft & using players that were cut from other teams for cheap. One more thing, stop it with the double posting.

Posted by: Annoyed | Aug 9, 2010 1:21:04 PM

Nice to see some of the injured players returning. Any idea when Stewart will return?

Posted by: Annoyed | Aug 9, 2010 1:39:38 PM

Dropping and muffing kicks / punts will suck on Sunday's when the other team gets the ball in good field position. I would invest in a good returner with GREAT hands and not opt for the speed they are looking for. That can get us in a hole quickly and will be a long season. GO PANTHERS!!

Posted by: patdaddy | Aug 9, 2010 1:42:28 PM

I agree Ron. Sign Terrell Hudgins if the cowgirls drop him.

Posted by: john | Aug 9, 2010 1:58:13 PM

I have a feeling that Rashawn Jackson will be our starting FB by the end of this season. He is a lot more versatile than Fiametta and if he can block he will probably end up winning that job by the end of this season if not before. He started out as a LB at UVA and is a pretty good athlete.

Posted by: Smiley | Aug 9, 2010 2:13:02 PM

i thought witherspoon and wright were kick returners.

Posted by: dazray | Aug 9, 2010 3:24:23 PM

i'm still not on the Armanti Edwards bandwagon quite yet. I can't think of any QB to WR converts who became stellar WRs, they tend to be average at best. I'm excited about LaFell and want Charly Martin to get a good shot

Posted by: Jason Alston | Aug 9, 2010 3:57:55 PM

Wasn't Josh Cribbs a former QB? He turned out to be pretty good.

Posted by: huntergates | Aug 9, 2010 4:00:47 PM

Umm Jason Alston you ever heard of a guy by the name of Hines Ward? UGA quaterback turned pro bowl WR for the Steelers!?!?!

Posted by: Nole4life | Aug 9, 2010 4:41:42 PM

Anyone who doubts Armanti's abilities is obviously unfamiliar with his resume. He won the Walter Payton award (FCS version of the Heisman) twice (first time in the history of FCS), and racked up over 4000 yards rushing as a qb.... Clearly an elusive player with ball-handling skills, which is why we're giving him a shot to return kicks and hopefully catch passes. He's ridiculously fast and very smart. He made Michigan look downright foolish for the first half of that game back in '07. I can't wait to watch him play in the NFL.

Posted by: Whistler | Aug 9, 2010 9:03:23 PM

Poor D.Jarrett! Hope you can turn it around soon before you are shown the door!!!

Posted by: Todd | Aug 9, 2010 9:12:45 PM

Josh Cribbs was a QB at Kent State, but is a #3 receiver at best for the Browns. Cribbs is a stellar return man, but don't use him as an example of a QB who became a stellar WR. Ronald Curry had more success as a WR than Cribbs has had.

Posted by: TribeHeel | Aug 10, 2010 10:33:08 AM

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