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September 27, 2010

Panthers' QBs can't find the grip

John Fox apparently is sticking with Jimmy Clausen at quarterback, although the Panthers’ coach didn’t exactly give the rookie a ringing endorsement.

Fox said Clausen would “more than likely” be the starter Sunday at New Orleans. Fox then pointed out that the Panthers’ offensive problems go beyond the quarterback position – the same thing Fox said when he benched Matt Moore last week.

Fox said Clausen did “pretty well” identifying defensive fronts and was “pretty quick” getting rid of the ball. But it seemed pretty clear Fox was irked that his quarterbacks continue to hand-deliver the ball to the other team.

After watching Moore and Clausen lose 10 of the Panthers’ NFL-worst 12 turnovers, Fox is now categorizing the giveaways.

“The variety last week was more sack-fumbles. This week they were just fumbles, whether it be in the run game or the center-quarterback exchange,” he said. “But either way, they’re turnovers that give the short field for the opponent.”

In tennis, you’d call the Panthers’ turnovers against Cincinnati unforced errors.

No one was blasted from the blind side or clocked going over the middle.

Two of Clausen’s fumbles came because he couldn’t handle the snap (left guard Travelle Wharton fell on one of them); the third was on a botched handoff that looked to be the fault of tailback Mike Goodson.

Someone asked Fox whether the rain played a part in the fumbles.

“Either way, it was what it was,” he said. “They played in the same weather we did.”

If the Panthers hit their average with four turnovers this week at the Superdome, it won’t be because of the weather.

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on September 27, 2010 at 06:38 PM | Permalink


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Posted by: kevin | Sep 27, 2010 7:51:16 PM

If they don't care, why should we?

Posted by: Atom | Sep 27, 2010 9:03:06 PM

Fox isn't upset with the fumbles.
He's just mad that Jimmy came in and performed admirably.
It's a total shot to his "Master Theory" that a Rookie QB takes at least 7 seasons to develop.

Posted by: Yuck. | Sep 27, 2010 9:07:04 PM

You're kidding, right? Clausen needs to get back in line and let the real quarter back play. This isn't Notre Dame.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 27, 2010 9:34:12 PM

What is with the fox hater

Posted by: jamie | Sep 27, 2010 10:04:31 PM

Carolina will win this Sunday, and Carolina could have been 3 and 0 if they only not turn the ball over, or at least alot as they did,and just has made two or three more play than they did. But they didnt that the reason why they where they are now, Fox will be back next year, and Fo x will turn this team around like he alway does.

Posted by: jamie | Sep 27, 2010 10:10:22 PM


Posted by: jeremy | Sep 27, 2010 10:34:09 PM

Yeah, Anon.
Because Moore obviously proved he's a "real" QB. But hey, at least Moore will be gone next year, so you can follow him to whichever team he goes to!
Moore sucks.


Posted by: Yuck. | Sep 27, 2010 10:44:45 PM

This offense has playmakers but an o-coordinator who did a half season at Cleveland in 06 before the Panthers hired him on. He has proven his incompetance. So let him wear the Sir Purr suit at games and just have the quarterback call the plays. Any of the 4 would be better and surely more aggressive. Or use the bye week to junk ND's offense an go with Cincy's spread that Pike ran. At least Pike was winning games in college. Maybe we can aspire to a pro football offense in the future

Posted by: Rigby Reardon | Sep 27, 2010 11:24:09 PM


Please, Peppers always played hard with the Panthers. His alleged plays off come at times when he just gets blocked out of the play or they run away from him. The same thing happens to every player. His effort level is on par with the majority of NFL players. The reality is that he just isn't the superhuman beast that some people wanted/expected him to be. He's a great player but even the great ones have bad plays, games and even seasons.

Posted by: Jerad | Sep 28, 2010 4:40:32 AM

"It was what it was"

Posted by: ric flair | Sep 28, 2010 6:19:59 AM

"It was what it was"

Posted by: ric flair | Sep 28, 2010 6:19:59 AM

You should have gotten Michael Vick when he was available.

Posted by: ATL FAN | Sep 28, 2010 7:04:07 AM

You should have gotten Michael Vick when he was available instead of turning up your nose at him. He has a lot of football left in him.

Posted by: ATL FAN | Sep 28, 2010 7:06:49 AM

The problem with Clausen is that he was used to running a pro-style offense in college; we don't have a pro-style offense in Charlotte.

Posted by: SCPOAB | Sep 28, 2010 7:29:48 AM

If Fox plays yo-yo with Jimmy Clausen and pulls him from the starting lineup he needs to be fired now. Starting Clausen to me means sticking with him through the learning process. In the second half Clausen looked like an NFL quarterback. He has an NFL arm and he looks to be pretty accurate. I saw him going through progressions on most plays. I think part of the problem with this offense is the scheme, and that goes back to Fox. Everybody can blame Jeff Davidson. But Davidson came from working with Charley Weis, who is a pretty good NFL offensive coordinator. They won Super Bowls in New England when he was the offensive coordinator.

Posted by: DJClifton | Sep 28, 2010 7:40:30 AM

I liked Fox and think he is a better than average NFL head coach. This team will get better as the season goes on since the majority of errors they are making are mental errors due to the lack of experience. Fox's teams always start slow. That's one of the reasons we struggle to make the playoffs. The one exception was 2008 when we started strong and finished 12-4.
I have resigned myself to the fact this season is lost. It was lost when Moore regressed and Jarrett didn't step up. The defense has not played great but they have kept us in each game until the end.

Posted by: Jimcat | Sep 28, 2010 7:54:19 AM

Clausen is good, but I don't think Fox knows how to function with a good QB like Jimmy. He's trying to baby him you can tell during games one shot down the feild that the bengals didn't even think was coming and it was a completion to Lafell. If Fox would have had Jimmy threatning the bengals big time...we would have won because the Bengals wouldn't know wht to do with Jimmy, like Fox. GO PANTHERS! GO CLAUSEN!

Posted by: paul | Sep 28, 2010 12:32:21 PM

Stick with Jimmy. In the long run, he'll be better than Moore. Actually, in the short run, he;ll be better too. We will not have a winning season with Moore anyway. If Clausen is the new face of the team, let's give the guy some real experience.

Posted by: Blair | Sep 28, 2010 3:07:24 PM

Why not give Tony Pike a shot.? He can't do any worse than lose. He IS NOT AFRAID... A big improvement over last week.!!!!

Posted by: EDWIN NEU | Sep 28, 2010 4:02:49 PM

...put Armanti in at QB. I bet he does better than all three, Moore, Clausen, and Pike, and it's better than watching him waste away on the inactive list.

Posted by: MikeyMike | Sep 28, 2010 8:51:30 PM

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