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October 31, 2010

Panthers maintain ground in race for No. 1 pick

ST. LOUIS – Look on the bright side: At this rate, the Panthers could be in position to get the No. 1 overall pick and author the type of one-year turnaround St. Louis is attempting to pull off.

Because other than maintaining ground in the draft-day positioning, there’s not a whole lot of good to come out of this one – a 20-10 Panthers’ defeat.

Carolina managed just 201 yards, more than half of which came on two drives with St. Louis playing prevent at the end of each half.

Jonathan Stewart was the same 2-yards-and-a-cloud-of-defenders tailback he’s been all year, only this time DeAngelo Williams wasn’t around to at least salvage the rushing game.

Steve Smith let a ball bounce off his facemask and lost a fumble for the second week in a row.

And Matt Moore continued to play the role of Jake Delhomme, 2009 Edition, by repeatedly throwing passes to the other team.

It wasn’t all Moore’s fault, of course. He was pressured on his first pick and had his arm hit as he was releasing the ball on the second INT.

The third one? I guess it was intended for Steve Smith, although Smith never bothered to turn around for the ball.

Asked what happened on the last pick, Moore said, “A lot.”

Moore then apologized for not going into the gory details, saying something about having to see the film. More likely, he was doing the prudent thing by not throwing a teammate and/or coach under the Panthers’ careening bus.

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on October 31, 2010 at 09:04 PM | Permalink

Comments

I hate that i talk myself into watching this stuff, no CRAP, every Sunday. They dont seem to even try to be competetive, atleast offensively. I hope they wake up and bring in some offensive minded head coach next year.

This is just rediculous!!

Posted by: Chuck | Oct 31, 2010 9:31:49 PM

Worse excuse for a professional football team I have seen.

Posted by: Mike | Oct 31, 2010 10:20:23 PM

St. Louis has had 4 picks in the first 100 for the last 4-5 years. It's about time that talent started showing.

Posted by: Ben | Oct 31, 2010 11:00:42 PM

Fire Jeff Davidson...NOW!

Posted by: navygamecock | Nov 1, 2010 12:40:48 AM

The Panther's are too cheap of an organization to ever sign the Number 1 overall pick in the college draft. It will never happen. They would trade out of that position or move back before they would ever tie up that much money in one player. Especially after the Pepper's Experiment failed.

Posted by: Fred | Nov 1, 2010 12:43:55 AM

Why does Martin Hurney get a free pass from the media? Is it because he was part of the media before he was hired by Bobby Beathard out in Washington. Hurney should be held accountable for the poor performance of the Panther's this season and all of his lame personnel decisions that he has made over the years. Doesn't one have to beleive if Martin Hurney knew that these 6th rounders were going to be as good as he thought they would be that he (Hurney) would have taken them a round or two higher than he did. Who's kidding who here? Hurney had no idea that those 6th players would be making a contribution or he would have selected them earlier. All NFL teams will take a chance on a player with any height, weight, or speed in those later rounds. The players the the Panther's have hit on in the draft are the ones that fell right into their laps.

Posted by: Sandy | Nov 1, 2010 1:16:03 AM

Hurney should be held accountable for the poor performance of the Panther's this season and all of his lame personnel decisions that he has made over the years?

So JR doesn't get any blame, going on a salary dump/youth movement? Cleary JR is the one making the major personel decision by getting rid of the over the hill players. Not Hurney!

Limitng Hurney to spend the money to sign the draft picks. Hurney never wanted to trade Chris H, let go both Jake and Peppers without compensation.

JR going cheap in a uncapped year just to prove a point was a waist of time. If there isn't a lockout next year, than what a waist of a year it is.

@Fred

The next CBA will have a rookie scale, so unproven rookie won't get top 5 money. With teams needing a QB next year such as the Jaguars, Vikings, 49ers(depends on how they finish) etc, etc.

I would listen to their or any offers to trade down to regain a 2nd rounder, along another extra pick. Since you can get 2 picks in return for the price on 1.

Posted by: adam carter | Nov 1, 2010 2:09:58 AM

No. No trading necessary. If the panthers have one of the top picks in the draft, and they don't take one of the 3 future all stars at QB, namely Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, or Andrew Luck, I am done with this team. I swear to God if I hear, "well we really dont know what we have in Jimmy Clausen and Matt Moore" Im gonna flip. Why cant we get the guy lke a sam bradford, or the matt ryan or joe flacco? We always have to have the undersized guy with the big heart. Or the guy that was a "steal". Just once I want the guy that is the consensus. The can't miss guy. I will be done with this team forever. I will go back to the redskins.

Posted by: cppro | Nov 1, 2010 7:41:32 AM

No. No trading necessary. If the panthers have one of the top picks in the draft, and they don't take one of the 3 future all stars at QB, namely Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, or Andrew Luck, I am done with this team. I swear to God if I hear, "well we really dont know what we have in Jimmy Clausen and Matt Moore" Im gonna flip. Why cant we get the guy lke a sam bradford, or the matt ryan or joe flacco? We always have to have the undersized guy with the big heart. Or the guy that was a "steal". Just once I want the guy that is the consensus. The can't miss guy. I will be done with this team forever. I will go back to the redskins.

Posted by: cppro | Nov 1, 2010 7:41:32 AM

The "Peppers Experiment" didnt fail either. Peppers was a dominant defensive end for us. Since he came into the league he was 2nd in the league in sacks. You cant ask much more than that from anybody.

Posted by: cppro | Nov 1, 2010 7:43:46 AM

Let Tony Pike play

Posted by: Catsackfever | Nov 1, 2010 8:31:52 AM

As far as I am concerned the Panthers have three rookie QB's. Matt Moore is the most experienced of the three inexperienced/developmental QB's and the best QB they have right now which is not saying very much becuase he is extremely inconsitent

Posted by: Catsackfever | Nov 1, 2010 8:35:42 AM

the panthers suck donkey butt...i drink fifteen beers yesterday watching this awful mess, i am now an alcoholic becuase of the panthers mess every week, i found myself drinking every sunday until i pass out and monday morning is here..can someoe help me to deal with the panthers losing in a better way..i thingk they should fire everyone..1=15 is on its way

Posted by: BOBCATS AND THE PANTHERS SUCK.. | Nov 1, 2010 9:14:11 AM

can i dream of having peppers, rucker, jenkins, minter back on this team..at least we were pretty good then and very respectable..i miss my old panthers, like i miss the old hornets..things will never be the same again..

Posted by: bring back the good old days | Nov 1, 2010 9:16:28 AM

Let's face it-Fox, Davidson, and Matt Moore will not be with the Panthers next season. Also this season will not be salvaged, so why play Moore and why keep Davidson as OC? Make those changes immediately and start playing Clausen, Pike and AE now to get the experience they will need for the future. In the worst case, we will find out if any or all of them can play in the NFL!

Posted by: sc ken | Nov 1, 2010 9:18:08 AM

Person,
Interesting how when Jake threw a pick last year it was all on him and everyone was pointing the finger at him. But this year Eithet Moore didn't want to throw a teammate under the bus or other excuses are made for him. Face it, he's just not that good! Otherwise, he would have been drafted. I say if Dallas wants him back on their practice squad, let them have him.

Posted by: dbigcat | Nov 1, 2010 9:20:51 AM

This is not John Fox's fault, this is Jerry Richardson and Marty Hurney. They make personnel decisions and this season was doomed before it began. There is no way you can expect to win in the NFL without experience on your team. Veterans know all the tricks of the trade and can help the younger players becaome better and learn those tricks. It is crazy to put all this on this coach. This is a team sport and they have team issues. Bill Cower, Jon Gruden and whoever else you can think of would not be able to put a winning product on the field without veteran help. Plain and Simple


Posted by: Josh | Nov 1, 2010 9:37:27 AM

I would rather go to the dentist and have a tooth pulled than have to watch a Panther game!

Posted by: Josh | Nov 1, 2010 9:49:19 AM

Sadly, I have to say that Steve Smith should be traded to New England for one of their second-round picks. Whoever is at pick 3, trade down to pick 3 from 1 for the third pick and another second rounder. Then we have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds to get a WR (AJ Green anyone?) and 3 studs on the o- and d-lines. Hopefully we will have hired a new, young coach who isn't afraid to use the whole playbook, and Clausen, the new WR and o-line will pair with our already-good defense and we can get back to respectability.

Posted by: J | Nov 1, 2010 10:30:00 AM

the comment about the panthers getting the #1 pick and not using it is dead on. if we do get the first pick and dont draft a stud then this teams mngt truely has mailed it in and isnt interested in putting a competitive team on the field.

Posted by: dar456 | Nov 1, 2010 10:45:35 AM

the comment about the panthers getting the #1 pick and not using it is dead on. if we do get the first pick and dont draft a stud then this teams mngt truely has mailed it in and isnt interested in putting a competitive team on the field.

Posted by: dar456 | Nov 1, 2010 10:45:35 AM

We could always trade the #1 for a second round pick, and use it on a complete non factor like Everette Brown.

Posted by: David | Nov 1, 2010 11:01:52 AM

We could always trade the #1 for a second round pick, and use it on a complete non factor like Everette Brown.

Posted by: David | Nov 1, 2010 11:01:52 AM

@cppro

Why in hell would Carolina draft another QB, so you and other can throw him under the bus? Just like Clausen, who will be a unproven rookie.

Luck will likely go to the Bills, Locker isn't any better, Mallet is a top 15 pick.

@J

Why would the Patriots have given up a 2nd round pick? Bill B usually trades players for pick, not giving them away.

As much this team lacks playmakers, hell they might as welll trade every good players for picks right?

@Josh

The Bucs have the lowest payroll in the league, roster having a bunch of rookies -3 years players. How come they are winning? Oh I know they make adjustments to succeed.

Jon F wasn't winning much when he had the veterans on the team, did he? 3 winng season in 8 years, prior to this year.

Gruden can't build a team, Morris is doing a great job with the Bucs.

Why would JR again overpid for a head coach, who hasn't coached since 2006? Will demand alot of money and power of the team?

Would have thought everybody learn from George S experience? I guess not.

Posted by: adam carter | Nov 1, 2010 11:08:02 AM

Building a good team also means spending some money on solid free agents - something we havent ever really done well. Remember Sean Gilbert? The only recent FA signings that paid even modest gains were Delhomme, Davis and Keyshawn, arguably maybe Testaverde. Unfortunately the Big Cheap refused to do this last season and in the offseason, and then dumped all our veteran talent.

Posted by: manu4t | Nov 1, 2010 11:21:14 AM

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