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October 28, 2010

The case for John Fox in Dallas

1028johnfox Dallas NBC affiliate NBC DFW presents the case for and against Carolina Panthers coach John Fox (left) as the next head coach in Dallas. Read the whole article here, but if you just want the highlights:

Credentials: If Jerry Jones is looking for someone who can run the defense as competently as Wade Phillips did, but without all of Wade’s glaring faults as a leader, John Fox makes perfect sense.
Weaknesses: You know managers who get pilloried for leaving a gassed pitcher in a game for way too long? Well, take that pitcher, make him a QB, and instead of leaving him in for too many innings, have him stay out there for entire games and seasons past his expiration date. That’s what John Fox did with Jake Delhomme.

The station goes on to solicit comments on whether readers want Fox or not, but as of this writing there are none. Hmmm.

Posted by Observer Sports on October 28, 2010 at 01:11 PM | Permalink


well maybe john could have put in someone else but Jake was proven because he took us to the superbowl. we never had a terrible season with him in. has anyone seen chris weinke play or david carr, maybe brett bazenet or however you spell his last name. Either way he waited until he thought he had a proven QB "Matt Moore" who last season, and last game proved himself. We didnt need to draft a high profile QB because we had other needs on the team.

Posted by: slail04 | Oct 28, 2010 1:46:17 PM

my question is will we ever get an elite qb for this team..just one day before i die i want to see the panthers with a real qb..

Posted by: panthersall day | Oct 28, 2010 1:54:09 PM

Me Too Panthersall day

Posted by: TP Wynn | Oct 28, 2010 1:58:48 PM

Slail04, you make a good point. Who was he going to play if he didn't play Jake? You could make the point that we didn't get a younger guy in the pipeline sooner but as far as playing Jake. I don't think he had a lot of options.

Posted by: lemmotlow | Oct 28, 2010 2:00:10 PM

As much as I'm not a Jake fan, he was incredible in 2003 beginning in the opening game win with the last second td pass. Jake had what can't be taught: making plays under pressure. IMHO, Jake got Fox to the Super Bowl that season instead of vice versa. Give credit where credit is due.

Posted by: Tino | Oct 28, 2010 2:11:20 PM

As much as I'm not a Jake fan, he was incredible in 2003 beginning in the opening game win with the last second td pass. Jake had what can't be taught: making plays under pressure. IMHO, Jake got Fox to the Super Bowl that season instead of vice versa. Give credit where credit is due.

Posted by: Tino | Oct 28, 2010 2:11:20 PM

He could have brought Testeverde back out of retirement. He could have got Carr. Or he could have let Williams do it in the wildcat for the year. It was ridiculous how he let Delhomme stay in the games just because he thought that was their best chance to win. Everyone knew he would have been better off with Moore or Cantwell.

Posted by: Moronic Fanbase | Oct 28, 2010 2:12:54 PM

I will wager ANYBODY IN THESE POSTS, not one single chance in the world FOx is a head coach in the NFL next year. I will bet all you want, all day. He is a failure at every level. He has had 3 winning seasons in the last 8 years. The only people who think Fox is a real NFL level coach are his wife, and the CO writers.

Posted by: JR-SUCKS!! | Oct 28, 2010 2:14:53 PM

The only problem with him going to the Cowboys is that he doesn't want to coach anymore...aka retire.

Posted by: Fox | Oct 28, 2010 2:18:17 PM

My Dreams would come true I absolutely Love Wade Phillips as the Cowboys coach as long as he is there they will stink, there is nothing in the world that could top that............Until Today, If what you say has any truth to it I have died and Gone to I hate the Dallas Cowboys Heaven.........

Posted by: Robert | Oct 28, 2010 2:27:09 PM

Fox refuses to draft a marquee QB, saying it's a crapshoot. But the team won't pay for starter-calibre FA QB, so what do you have left? Somebody's cast-off that you think you can rehab (Delhomme, Carr) or a low draft or undrafted QB you think you can coach up (Moore, Basanez).

Posted by: Authority | Oct 28, 2010 2:37:03 PM

Fox doesn't want to coach? That's a new one, I wonder why he just didn't retire when the Panthers didn't extend his contract? The Cowboys will not hire Fox, I am willing to bet that Fox will go the Dom Capers route and be a very capable D-Coordinator for a while until the stank of the last few seasons wear off of him. I don't think he is a great talent evaluator and he is very predictable, but there are very few current coaches I would take over Fox if my team was in the playoffs. Outside of personnel decisions and stagnant play calling at times(which reflects the thin talent level we have had most of the time), can you recall a glaring mistake Fox has made IN a game? I can, and that was leaving Jake in the playoff game that long. And that mistake was based on personnel! Take away all his powers over personnel and hire a capable GM, and Fox is just fine for Dallas.

Posted by: mike | Oct 28, 2010 2:38:36 PM

Ask Jay Glazer, who made the case for Fox in Dallas next year weeks ago, if he will take that bet.
Fox is loved around the league, how do I know? Every game announcer I hear tells me so.
How do they know? Well they get to talk to the players, coaches, and even owners.
So make that bet all day every day and see how much you lose.

Posted by: heelfan#1 | Oct 28, 2010 2:39:53 PM

Helllll No! He is the last person for the job @ Dallas. It will be like replacing Wade with the same person. Either John Gruden or Bill Cowher. Toughness all the way!

Posted by: DallasFan | Oct 28, 2010 2:42:17 PM

If you think so Heel Fan put your money where your mouth is.

Posted by: JR-SUCKS!! | Oct 28, 2010 2:46:15 PM

He didn't retire because when he got his contract extension he did want to coach. when he tried to quit after the 2008 season Richardson wouldn't let him, so he hasn't cared about the success of team since.

Posted by: Fox | Oct 28, 2010 2:53:25 PM

Mediocre coaches and QB's do not become champions

Posted by: Bernzswallows | Oct 28, 2010 2:56:23 PM

JR-SUCKS: I'll take that bet. What are we betting?

I'll even bet Fox is one of the first four head coaches hired next year. He won't be brought in late in the process because someone didn't get their first or second choices. He'll be signed before he's barely out the door.

Fox is a solid coach. He's worn out his welcome in Charlotte and needs to move on, and will find a home. Someone in the league will overpay him shortly after he leaves. (He's not worth a top-5 salary, despite what he thinks.)

Posted by: BullCityDog | Oct 28, 2010 3:04:26 PM

Panthers were 12-4 in 2008. Have the Panthers ever had a better regular season record? That was 1 and less than half a season ago. Jake was QBing.

Posted by: Hooover45 | Oct 28, 2010 3:07:32 PM

And I'll go you one further...someone will specifically fire their coach to hire Fox.

Posted by: Yeah Right | Oct 28, 2010 3:13:48 PM

Dallas sucks and always will no matter if it's Wade Phillips or Fox. But I LOL @ Carolina fans and their man-crush they had on Delhomme. He had a good supporting cast and a great defense that got him to the SB. It wasn't his arm. Plenty of crappy QBs win SBs based off defenses... i.e. Trent Dilfer

Posted by: IrishCream | Oct 28, 2010 3:14:20 PM

If you guys are betting for immidiately next year he will not be a head coach next year, maybe down the road, its a sucker bet if you think he goes straight from possibly 3-13 to another job.......

Posted by: Robert | Oct 28, 2010 3:16:04 PM

Can we send Marty Hernia and Jerry Richardson with him?

Posted by: kevin | Oct 28, 2010 3:18:54 PM

how can anybody say that fox left delhomme in too long? he came off a great 2008 season and had a bad start last year. how do you bail on a guy that took you to the playoffs 3 times including the year prior? he had like 3 or 4 game winning TD drives in '08, how do you bail on him after a few bad games in '09? that's a horrible assessment of the situation. it's a live by it and die by it mentality and that goes without fault given the backround he had to work with.

there's no doubt fox is a better coach than phillips. no question he'd be a good candidate for any job but i'm not so sure dallas has the blue collar kind of guys that will work well with john fox. dallas has too many divas right now, maybe fox could bring the best out of them but i see it clashing. he'd be a good fit in jacksonville taking over for del rio but i would imagine they would want bigger change than that.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 28, 2010 3:27:23 PM

We will trade their talent for our talent and we as fans could call the plays ourselves and finish better than both of these 1-5 teams.. we are now arguing over the 2 worst coaches in the league........If Jeff Fisher was the Cowboys coach they would be 5-1 and if he was the Panthers coach 3-2.....

Posted by: Robert | Oct 28, 2010 3:37:50 PM

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