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October 05, 2010

Time to get Edwards on the field

It’s time for the Panthers to see what Armanti Edwards can do.

At receiver and quarterback.

Even before Dwayne Jarrett’s DWI arrest early Tuesday morning, the Panthers faced the possibility of lining up three rookies and a chronic underachiever at receiver against the Bears this weekend.

Regardless of the status of Jarrett, whose legal fate could be in limbo for a few weeks until the results of his blood test come back, and the condition of Steve Smith’s left ankle, it’s time for John Fox to get Edwards on the field – preferably at quarterback.

We’re not suggesting anything drastic. Jimmy Clausen’s performance in a hostile environment Sunday in New Orleans was a positive step for the rookie from Notre Dame.

But the continuing offensive struggles – two touchdowns are not cause for celebration, even when it’s a high-water mark – should make this an easy call:

Throw Edwards in for a series or two in the Mountaineer package.

Fox won’t have to worry about Edwards dropping a punt or running the wrong route. Quarterback is his position.

If the Panthers drafted the former Appalachian State standout in the third round because of his athleticism, well, let’s have a look at it.

If nothing else, it gives defensive coordinators something else to scheme for, and gives the home fans something to get excited about.

The Panthers are 0-4. What do they have to lose?

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on October 5, 2010 at 01:24 PM | Permalink


I like it.

Posted by: pnthrfan007 | Oct 5, 2010 1:33:56 PM


Posted by: cppro | Oct 5, 2010 1:35:53 PM


Posted by: cppro | Oct 5, 2010 1:35:53 PM


I have been amazed at the comments on Edwards ever since draft day. Apparently, according to many, he was required to catch 75 passes for 800 yards and 8 TDs in the exhibition season, and since he didn't he is a complete waste of skin and everyone who ever suggested anything positive about him is an App State apologist who deserves to be executed.

This is where Fox's perchant for using many words to say absolutely nothing comes in handy. He should come out and say that Jarrett is innocent until proven guilty and is still a vital part of the game plan. Then let the Bears gameplan for Jarrett, LaFell and Gettis, then throw the Mountaineer package at them a few times and watch them fall all over themselves trying to stop it. Oh, yeah, double-team Peppers for the first 2 series, then let Gross take him 1-on-1 after he gets frustrated and stops playing hard. Then blitz the crap out of them and ring Cutler's bell again. Panthers win!

Posted by: J | Oct 5, 2010 1:36:39 PM

Forgot to finish that rant properly - Then on Monday morning, give Jarrett his walking papers.

Posted by: J | Oct 5, 2010 1:38:00 PM


You may want to tell Darin to stop using your name to write articles....

Posted by: Phillip | Oct 5, 2010 1:49:52 PM

J, all he was required to do was look like he was a semi-capable player against the third- and fourth-stringers populating the second halves of the games he was playing in this preseason. Unfortunately, though, he didn't look anywhere close to that against guys who'll be lucky to ever see an NFL field after August. Kid is garbage, and always will be. No Elons or Citadels coming up on the Panthers' schedule.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Oct 5, 2010 1:50:21 PM

How about we start with showing Edwards where the pre-game meetings are held, how to warm up with the team and which side of the field to stand on during the game. I mean really? QB? That is exactly what we need, let's throw in a 165lb QB to run wildcat against Chicago. What is the threat? WHERE is our threat? Smith is out and Jarrett will be out, we have rookies at WR and you think that Edwards at QB is going to anything other than stack 9 guys in the box and have man coverage on our non-threat WR's....C'mon man.

Posted by: John | Oct 5, 2010 1:51:50 PM


Posted by: Steven | Oct 5, 2010 1:53:00 PM

Edwards was drafted to be developed as a receiver, not QB. He hasn't developed those skills enough to even get a game-day jersey yet, let alone handling coordination of the entire offense. Why in the world would you go from little experience (Moore) to no experience (Clausen) to no training (Edwards) at THE most important position on the team? How does that make any sense? Oh, and since when does the 'Mountaineer' (aka Wildcat, or any other cutesy-cutesy name you want to come up with) make any sense in the first place? All it does it reduce your manpower on the field from 11 to 10, alerts the defence that the 'QB' will almost certainly be running it, or on the rare chance that he throws it, there is a high probability that the throw will be poor. Seems like a lose/lose proposition. I understand why the Panthers did it back when Weinke was QB, because he didn't provide any better option than this. But Clausen, inexperienced as he is, is still a way better option. The last thing they need now is to add in even more inexperience and ineptitude. If the Panthers weren't so intent on watching their pennies, and if they really were concerned about trying to win a game or two, they would find a way to bring in an experienced WR - anybody with reasonable skills and knowledge of what it takes to function in the NFL. At this point, that makes the most sense.

Posted by: Wayne D | Oct 5, 2010 1:53:02 PM

With an 0-4 start, losing your #1 (arguably the only real) receiver on the team, still without Otah, running game ALMOST getting started....WHY THE F@#% NOT???

'J' your type of rants are welcomed. Most of the "fans" that come on here do nothing but B@#$% and moan about the team and how they're too predictable and don't do what needs to be done and blah blah blah. 'CPPRO' being one of those type.

I don't agree with replacing Clausen as some of you are assuming they meant. However putting him in during certain times with the option of a run or DUMP OFF PASS only, brings a new element to an offense that is struggling. As the aritcle says his athletisism is why we got him. It's just a shame Davidson is too 1-dimensional to try something like this.

Posted by: pnthrfan007 | Oct 5, 2010 2:07:05 PM

1) Procton is an idiot
2) Wayne - the guy said put him in for a couple of series in the Wildcat.
3) Procton is an idiot.
4) The advantage of Edwards is that he can pass unlike other Wildcat people.
5) Procton is an idiot.

Posted by: BUTCH | Oct 5, 2010 2:09:32 PM

I love it.

Posted by: Panthers | Oct 5, 2010 2:16:26 PM

I am amazed at the idiocy of some of these comments. AE was drafted for ALL of these reasons. WR, PR, and YES QB. He will not run the "entire" offense, but will rather only run the "Mountaineer" package. He isn't suggesting that Armanti will replace Clausen, but rather come in from time to time and run a "wildcat" style offense, much like we have done with DeAngelo in the past. Only he can pass which makes him much more dangerous. Maybe 5-10 plays a game. He doesn't need to know the entire playbook from a QB perspective. It has worked in Miami and elsewhere, so why not give it is a shot with the 0-4 Panthers? Oh and BTW he isn't 165 pounds. He is lsited at 182, and more likely is 185-188. That is a big difference and a QB/WR frame.

Posted by: Mojo | Oct 5, 2010 2:17:39 PM

Would you like to know who else has played against the Elon's and Citadel's? Jerry Rice, Tony Romo, Brian Westbrook, Joe Flacco, Randy Moss(before Marshal became IA), Terrell Owens, Walter Payton, Steve McNair. These guys could never make it in the NFL.

Posted by: Richard | Oct 5, 2010 2:17:45 PM

Have to agree with all BUTCH's points. Ricard is right on the money, there have been alot of great players that were never supposed to make it in the league.
A couple more ideas they could try:
Put goodson in the slot, he has good hands and gets open fairly well.
Try JStew at FB with DWill at tailback.
Run a "pro set" with double trouble flanking the qb.

Posted by: heelfan#1 | Oct 5, 2010 2:34:30 PM

Put him in. Damn, he was taken in the third round of a year that the panther had no chance of getting above .500. If was not going to happen.
Yes put his @ss in so he can learn the position and become a better player. I doubt Panthers let him go so he better be ready when we named is called.
However, GO PANTHERS!!!!!!

Posted by: Mark | Oct 5, 2010 2:34:37 PM

Wayne is the smartest man on this board.

Posted by: Steven | Oct 5, 2010 2:35:39 PM

On one hand, I still think adding in a player for occasional 'gadget' plays, with a low liklihood of success, is not the best option for a team that can't even pull off the basics. But on the other hand, what the heck - the season is a write-off already anyway, and at least some fans might get some enjoyment out of it. Not much else to get excited about, I guess. For myself, I still stand by my above comments (ie: if they were at all interested in wins, they'd bring in an experienced WR), but if other fans can get some fun out of the deal, what's the difference between going 3-13 (going 'gadget' and trying other weird stuff) or 4-12 (trying to continue 'conservative'). It's gonna all get blown up at the end of this season anyway.

Posted by: Wayne D | Oct 5, 2010 2:41:43 PM

Here's an idea...Why don't all of the football genuises that post all over the boards and articels get a coaching or GM job with a NFL team? Until then, show a little support for your local team because you'll be the first ones boasting when the Panthers are back on top.

Posted by: zipcity | Oct 5, 2010 2:42:50 PM

Nice try Darin, but we all know its you. "Armanti Edwards...slurp slurp slurp"

Posted by: Darin is an idiot | Oct 5, 2010 2:49:44 PM

there is a whole lot of stuff the offense could do but choose not to. How about an occasional slot pass, more than one screen pass per game, a reverse (to a fast guy) or yes, a wildcat play. It's as if the Panther braintrust is worrying about losing. Evidently J Stew is now a 7 carry a game back. What is up with that? All I ever envisioned from Moore or Clausen was a game manager. Just go 12 for 20 for 150 yards and no pics. Nothing flashy. Just keep the defense honest. I also envisioned Kasay kicking a crapload of field goals. Would have done that had we not turned the ball over in the red zone so many times.

Posted by: Grant | Oct 5, 2010 2:49:44 PM

Don't forget: this is "big boy football." But wait a minute - the big boys don't seem to be getting it done, do they?

Posted by: tweed | Oct 5, 2010 2:53:33 PM

Our offense is so bad we literally cannot spare the practice reps to install a package for Armanti Edwards, no matter how much the App State fans want it. He's going to stink no matter what he does, and harping on his name constantly is going to turn off the non-Appheads to the point where we will boo the kid off the field when he screws up.

Posted by: Authority | Oct 5, 2010 2:54:00 PM

Okay, I'm all for making Edwards active this week so he can actually get on the field. After all, the most effective way to improve is experience.

That being said, I don't really want to see him lining up as QB until he has at least gotten a few games at WR under his belt. Even then, I'm good sticking with the occasional gimmick play that results in him throwing the ball. I don't think its good that we threw Jimmy into the fire too early, so throwing Armanti in there would be even worse.

But regardless, he should be on the field Sunday and get his chance.

Posted by: tom P | Oct 5, 2010 2:55:58 PM

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