« BSP makes all the big plays in loss | Main | Status of Clausen still uncertain »

November 21, 2010

Just Gross: Tackle breaks down latest loss

If it is Sunday evening, it must be time for the weekly edition of deep thoughts by Jordan Gross after a Panthers’ loss, part 9.

There’s a reason there’s usually a crowd around Gross’ locker after games. The Panthers’ offensive tackle is a straight shooter who brings the perspective of having played eight seasons with the team.

Gross also has the locker next to journeyman QB Brian St. Pierre, who was the story of Sunday’s 37-13 defeat to Baltimore – for the play he made for the Panthers (88-yard TD to David Gettis) and the two he made for the Ravens (consecutive fourth-quarter passes that were returned for TDs).

“It’s a frustrating loss, a makeshift offense again,” Gross said. “I thought Brian did an outstanding job for being here 10 days. It was close at the end and some bad plays there swung the score and the direction quickly. It kind of got away from us there at the end.”

Really, St. Pierre did what most expected, considering he’d had three days with the Panthers’ offense (and one with the practice-squad offense).

The two pick-sixes might have been a little extreme. But the Ravens’ D – and their thousands of fans who invaded BoA Stadium – smelled blood after the first INT, a nifty pick-and-lateral by veteran safety Ed Reed.

The Panthers spent the first three quarters trying to keep St. Pierre out of potentially vulnerable spots, even punting from midfield rather than have him heave one into the end zone with nine seconds left in the first half.

(That St. Pierre might not have reached the end zone is nit-picking. Take a chance; there are nine seconds left. Maybe the Panthers draw a pass interference penalty.)

But after Dawan Landry scored off the Reed lateral, the Panthers came back out in an empty backfield that just looked like trouble for the home team.

Ray Lewis made sure of it with his 24-yard INT return for a TD.

That left Gross and others sifting through the wreckage of another loss.

Gross was asked whether he was ready for the season to be done. Gross managed a smile and said players are always ready for a break at this point.

“No, it’s a pride thing. I want to win more now than I’ve ever wanted to win, more than when we went 12-4 because it’s tough,” Gross said.

“You put in the same amount of time win or lose, and it’s so much more fun when you’re winning. Everything’s better. We’ll get one. We’ll get it done, and when we do everybody will be celebrating.”

They’ve got six more cracks at the win column.

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on November 21, 2010 at 08:43 PM | Permalink


Gross you and along Smith need to bash Fox and Davidson for their elementray school play calling.

Never mind, Jenkins was traded for speaking his mind. Fox has giving up on this team, sick ot tired hearing his post game interviews.

Beason needs to bash Meeks your scheme sucks ass.

Posted by: adam carter | Nov 21, 2010 8:54:40 PM

I would like Smith to sucker punch Fox and Davidson. Maybe he will be used the proper way, instead of not being use.

Smith deserves better, to bad him and Gross are waisting their glory years under a lame duck coach.

Who can't adjust, game plan, or develop youn talent to save his lif. It is what it is, stupid ass idiot.

Go Falcons

Posted by: mark smith | Nov 21, 2010 8:59:31 PM

Yeah, it was definitely Fox who cut every veteran we had back in March and replaced them with sixth-rounders and D-2 studs like Armanti. Please.

Posted by: MichaelProcton | Nov 21, 2010 10:02:21 PM

Armanti has something you never will MP a degree.

Posted by: jeff | Nov 21, 2010 10:12:07 PM

So Fox doesn't get any blame? Was Fox winning consistently with his veteran talent? 3 winning seasons in 8 years is mediocre.

If you weren't winning with the player you had before, its time for a change. Sorry u and other didn't know it would be this year to rebuild instead doing the lockout.

Fox is a lame duck, he never change his appoarch to game of run,run,pass, and punt. Always wanting to settle for 3 points instead of 7.

Look at my Falcons horrible in 2007 and now is winning consistently. A coah who actually adjust,game plans, develop young talent.

Something your coach can't of wanting to keep the veteran players. Bette luck next year.

Posted by: mark smith | Nov 21, 2010 10:16:48 PM

To quote the Baltimore Sun "The Panthers are atrocious."

Posted by: Mark | Nov 21, 2010 10:19:03 PM

adam carter and mark smith must go to the same elementary/middle school.

Posted by: heelfan#1 | Nov 21, 2010 10:52:49 PM


Nope we don't go to the same schhol, thanks for asking though? Must can read it if you are bashing it right?

Posted by: mark smith | Nov 21, 2010 11:42:11 PM

They need to give some in sight on thier future f k that give Armarti a chance or pike I hate this team becasuse Jeff Davidson couldn't call a play if he was coaching the patriots on Madden 11

Posted by: Steven | Nov 22, 2010 5:39:48 AM

Where are all the REAL PANTHERS fan that spent all day and night...bashing Mike Vick! Have fun with your rotation of Pickle,Pike and Pierre! JR should be ashame of himself!

p/s...Oh yeah, Wouldn't wanna leave out the Delhomme lovers. I'm sure he would be welcomed with open arms. Lets see how many more idiots show up at BOA for the next home game. FOOLs

Posted by: BangBus | Nov 22, 2010 8:36:29 AM

I've actually gotten to the point that I am enjoying Fox's suffering. I will be more upset if he gets fired now. I want him to have this full season on his record. To have to explain his inability to develop young players or change game strategy in his next interview. Every opposing coach praises him and his staff, while silently thanking him for the easy to prepare for win that week.

Posted by: Sportsdon | Nov 22, 2010 9:26:57 AM

I feel bad for the great players who have to finish this season, like how are beason, gross, and kalil supposed to care next year when they were more or less thrown under the bus this year?

Posted by: Ethan | Nov 22, 2010 9:37:16 AM

I may be in the minority here, but I believe the Panthers should offer St. Pierre a long-term extension. I've seen enough to know that, with time, he could be a great one, and he has little miles on his tires. Gotta credit Fox on this one: BSP gives us the best chance to win now, and in the future. As for the makeshift O-line, they will come together and the offense will be dominant next year, again, credit Fox on that one. And while the defense is in a funk, it's only temporary. If teams think they will just walk over the Panthers from now on, forget about it. Fox has them ready, prepared and hungry. He may be gone next year, and I'm not sure about that based on his leadership and stewardship of this team, but we will certainly reap the benefits of his greatness next year as we waltz to a Super Bowl Championship.

Posted by: Panther Dan | Nov 22, 2010 11:08:03 AM

"At this point, John Fox doesn’t care about the team’s future investments because he won’t be around beyond this season. Choosing St. Pierre to start over Pike is clearly an act of defiance by Fox. He’s sending a message to ownership and the front office that he’d rather play a guy off the street than a quarterback they drafted." - ESPN Article

OK, seriously, I think it is time to part ways with Fox. I dont want to see him on the sidelines anymore. I used to be a Fox supporter, but this is rediculous. No creativity, stubborn, no concern for the teams future. It is time to let him go, the only problem is who we would turn to then. Davidson? No. Meeks? I like the guy and what he is doing for the defense, but that is just too much to ask him to do. Honestly though, we cant get much worse right? Kick Fox to the curb. Any team that picks him up as a head coach is mental. He has done nothing to prove he deserves a second chance.

Posted by: Josh | Nov 22, 2010 11:15:24 AM

jr is making all the moves for the future. This type of season was gonna happen sooner or later. Granted nobody thought this team would play this poorly, or that matt moore would come out and play like garbage. We are in an uncapped year with a coach who will not be coming back and that has been known for some time. So with the uncapped year jr and marty cut all the players tied to the old regime since all if not most are on the downside of their careers and there wont be a cap hit, because the salary cap is coming back with the cba not to mention there could be no football in 2011, so it makes sense to cut those players. So that leaves us with a bunch of young players, we throw them out there and we see what we got so when the new coach comes in he knows who can play, has a high draft pick to be the cornerstone of the new regime, and a bunch of salary cap space to add key free agents. People have to try and put things into perspective and that a plan is in place. Like i said i believe that nobody in the organization thought this team would play so poorly especially the run game. I know it sucks A## right now but the panthers will be relevant again sooner rather than later guaranteed

Posted by: james | Nov 22, 2010 11:24:35 AM

Are you kidding, Josh? As my earlier post demonstrates, we should be thankful Fox hasn't already left. Without his astute leadership, we would be rudderless and without hope, instead of positioned for a late-season push and Super Bowl run next year. Come on, are you blind?! We're nearly invincible now, and will be next year.

Posted by: Panther Dan | Nov 22, 2010 11:34:05 AM

The best thing to happen Sunday was a Bills win. If we can lose out, we'll be able to draft Andrew Luck. Pick up Harbaugh to coach next year and you're back in the playoffs for a decade.

Posted by: anonymous | Nov 22, 2010 12:58:56 PM

I am still wondering why you have young QB's on the payroll and, in an obvious non-playoff season, you don't allow either one to get additional real game experience. If you think enough of them to use a draft pick on them, why do you not allow them to get experience? Especially, when you KNOW you aren't going to make the playoffs!

Posted by: Kevin | Nov 22, 2010 2:53:03 PM

The comments to this entry are closed.