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January 13, 2011

Early Fox-Denver thoughts

    It'll be curious to see how John Fox's hiring in Denver impacts his old team.

    For one thing, the interview with owner Pat Bowlen had to be interesting, since he's a close friend of Panthers owner Jerry Richardson. As you might have noticed, Fox and Richardson may not necessarily be on each other's Christmas card list. 

    But beyond that, there are a number of interesting elements to his move west.

    -- We all know how Fox feels about young quarterbacks. The Broncos have cast their lot with Tim Tebow, who the Panthers panned a year ago in the pre-draft process.  They've got the perfectly acceptable Kyle Orton sitting there, and if Elway wants Tebow to flourish, he better trade the veteran Orton as quickly as possible.

    -- The Panthers have talked to a few assistants from the old staff about staying, but they better hurry if they want any of the rest. Fox will reach out to old friends quickly. You'd expect him to retain Broncos OC Mike McCoy (his old QB coach here), and definitely bring safeties coach Mike Gillhamer. You'd put veteran RB coach Jim Skipper on that list, but the Broncos are said to like existing RBs coach Eric Studesville, who was their interim head coach.

    -- The Broncos ranked 26th in the league in rushing.  Fox likes to run. Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams would be a free agent. Dots, connect yourselves.

-- Darin Gantt

Posted by Observer Sports on January 13, 2011 at 04:44 PM | Permalink


Wait, Tebow is on THIS team?? Does anyone have St. Pierre's number?

Posted by: John Fox | Jan 13, 2011 4:47:40 PM

Williams for Orton?

Posted by: juan | Jan 13, 2011 4:52:25 PM

Denver prepare for a boring season of football(r2p2=run,run,pass,punt) & best believe his tenure will not be as long as it was here in Carolina

Posted by: LASHON1072 | Jan 13, 2011 4:52:42 PM

"Williams for Orton"

Whoever said this needs to be shot.

Posted by: Jordan | Jan 13, 2011 4:57:20 PM

It is what it is. I don't think the Panthers are going to retain a lot of their coaches.

Posted by: Nosebleed fan | Jan 13, 2011 5:09:13 PM

Devistating for Denver.

Posted by: Libby Profeta | Jan 13, 2011 5:45:48 PM

LOL...Fox & Elway I give him 2yrs before he's fired...Funny actually!

Posted by: hellfish | Jan 13, 2011 5:55:09 PM

I fully expect Denver to ascend to above average but not great and stay there for a long time.

Posted by: BullCityDog | Jan 13, 2011 6:15:16 PM

Congrats John on your new job. I wish'd you success here and I wish you the same in Denver.

Posted by: pland67 | Jan 13, 2011 6:24:48 PM

"I fully expect Denver to ascend to above average but not great and stay there for a long time."

LOL so true..

in all honesty it comes down to how good Tebow is. If Fox had a good QB he was typically pretty good, and he did get within 3 points of winning a superbowl.

Posted by: Gamble20 | Jan 13, 2011 6:39:50 PM

I am a fan of both teams (Father is a Broncos fan, so its in my blood, but I really am more of a Panthers fan) so this is a little weird for me.

Whats even more weird is they have the 1 and 2 picks in the draft, and Richardson and Bowlen are on the same labor committee. If these two teams meet in the superbowl I would be so confused.

Posted by: Gamble20 | Jan 13, 2011 6:44:51 PM

so glad I will no longer have to watch him do the "Fox 3-Step"

step one: chew gum like a maniac
step two: clap hands at eye level after a turnover or missed opportunity
step three: look down at headset control on belt to search for correct buttons to push...repeat

Posted by: tom | Jan 13, 2011 7:15:21 PM

I can see a trade between Williams and orton only if he comes with some high draft picks. If this front office let's Williams go without any compensation like what happened with peppers, I think they need to be taken in the streets tarred and feathered, lined up so every psl owner and fan can kick them in the n*ts because that's pretty much what they would be doing to us.

Posted by: mike | Jan 13, 2011 7:18:53 PM

They don't need to get rid of Deangelo period!! He is the best back this franchise has ever had, including Stew. This team needs all the offense they can get and double trouble isn't a bad start.

Posted by: Jordan | Jan 13, 2011 7:33:42 PM

There can be no Williams for anybody. He is an unrestricted free agent. DWill can sign with anyone he wants.

Posted by: Phil | Jan 13, 2011 8:05:30 PM

actually fox is going to pick up deshaun foster. thank god he's gone. riviera actually says something interesting when he speaks.

Posted by: joe cool | Jan 13, 2011 8:07:47 PM

this just in fox has placed tebow on ir.

Posted by: joe cool | Jan 13, 2011 8:09:36 PM

I'd rather have Kevin Kolb, but Orton would be a huge upgrade over li'l Jimmy Clausssssen. He's a picklehead.

Posted by: person | Jan 13, 2011 8:16:48 PM

Over here in Colorado some of us are wondering why Fox when Carolina finished worst in the league. Was Fox hampered or stuck with a bad situation? Why did he go from 13-3 to 2-14 in two years? Fox did have good years but 2-14 jeez! Will your new coach have the athletes to go with his style?

Posted by: colofalc | Jan 13, 2011 9:11:10 PM

yes bad situation. The owner cut everyone older than 30 because he's in charge of the new CBA agreement. Once a new CBA is in place players will be cheaper. We went young to see what we had before we rebuild next year, and Fox just happened to be signed through last year. 2-14 wasn't Fox's fault.

Posted by: brandon | Jan 13, 2011 9:17:34 PM

Deangelo isn't going anywhere. Period.

Posted by: NC | Jan 13, 2011 9:19:17 PM

That is what everyone who knows nothing thinks. The D played well and the only guys that were missing on the O side was Delhomme,Muhammad and Hoover. So The owner did not strip the team as everyone says. Johnnie Fox cannot develop young players!! Also stubborn, will not Adjust in games and coaches not too lose.... Pretty much sums him up.

Find the NFC SOUTH Blog Pat yasinskas wrote January 11 (Rivera brings open mind about offense) and it pretty much sums years past up.

Posted by: 10-4! | Jan 13, 2011 9:48:21 PM

Poor Tebow will never get a fair shot.

Posted by: Phil | Jan 13, 2011 11:25:26 PM

10-4: The only guys on offense that were missing were Delhomme, Hoover, and Muhammed? Who were you watching this year? Carolina was without RT Jeff Otah (a first rounder 3 years ago) for the entire year, DeAngelo Williams missed plenty of action, and the starting QB missed plenty of action due to injury (in part because Carolina had no RT [Otah} and no running game [Williams] for the first part of the season). Add in Smith's injuries at the end of the year and we played some games with 4 of our best 6 offensive players.

Posted by: Scott | Jan 14, 2011 12:02:07 AM

The moronic fanbase speaks again! 10-4 how ignorant can you be? Saying they only let go 3 of their vets is just plain ignorant. Like Scott pointed out, Otah didnt play 1 game, Moore went on ir early in the year, they had 14 players on ir, & most of them were starters. Richardson did not spend any money to replace any of them. He spent bare minimum, hence BSP playing. Hellfish, were'nt you 1 of the people saying Fox would'nt be a head coach ever again? Goes to show how ignorant this moronic fanbase is.

Posted by: Moronic Fanbase | Jan 14, 2011 12:25:48 AM

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