January 14, 2011
Panthers looking at Gruden?
Given the admiration Jon Gruden always expressed for the Carolina Panthers personnel, it's no surprise some would wonder if he was a candidate here.
But his brother?
According to The Virginian-Pilot newspaper, UFL coach Jay Gruden could be headed to an NFL job, which an unnamed UFL source said was with Carolina.
The 43-year-old Jay Gruden is a long-time Arena League coach, who was leading the UFL's Florida Tuskers when that franchise moved to Virginia.
Gruden said he could hear if he's getting an NFL job as soon as today, but added: "Maybe Sunday, or Monday. We'll see how it goes."
He worked on his brother's staff in Tampa Bay, but most of his coaching experience has been with the Orlando Predators (1998-2001 and 2004-08).
In addition to the Super Bowl title he won with the Buccaneers, he also won six Arena Bowl titles.
-- Darin Gantt
Posted by Observer Sports on January 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM | Permalink
what would he teach?
Posted by: me | Jan 14, 2011 10:56:27 PM
I think I would like that choice as an OC. Its a fresh mind with new plays. It would catch a lot of teams offguard.
Posted by: c_boss | Jan 14, 2011 10:59:12 PM
Maybe he could carry Beason's gear.
Posted by: djfoams | Jan 14, 2011 11:04:48 PM
I heard Jay Gruden could be hired at a cheap price.
Jerry got a deal with Rivera accepting a cheap contract at 11.4 million, less than 3 million a year on average. Compared to Harbaugh who signed with the 49ers for 25 million for 5 years, averaging 5 million a year. Now if Jerry could hire a cheap OC like Jay Gruden and a cheap DC, and assitants. Then he'll be able to make a better profit for his partners.
Posted by: Meano | Jan 14, 2011 11:57:32 PM
Drop the cheap crap already. Rivera has never been a head coach at any level and certainly hasn't just gotten all the notoriety that Harbaugh has recently. I'll take the Rivera hire bigtime because he's a great coach. Fox didn't get much money at first either so you're not making any points here.
Posted by: Jim | Jan 15, 2011 12:49:58 AM
i think it would be great 3 of 4 coaches would have rings (rivera as a player) threw a name in the ring like mike singeltary or kevin green at DC and steve berline as qb coach we would be awsome
Posted by: 2011panthers taking over | Jan 15, 2011 1:23:57 AM
Sounds like the truth hurts you Jim.
Rivera making less than half of what Harbaugh is now making with the 9er is no knocking on Rivera's ability. I think he has actually proven more than Harbaugh that he could coach in the NFL. This is just merely Jerry liking the price that Rivera will work for and the fact that he could coach, but if his price was any higher, he probably wouldn't be the Panther's new HC.
Watch and see. Everyone the Panthers hire to help Rivera will be done on the cheap. This Jay Gruden they're interested in, is just another example. Wait and see, if he gets a job with the Panthers his pay will be relatively cheap for the position he coaches. Then you'll justify it with; "that's because most of his experience in coaching came from the arena league and not the NFL". Once again you'll be missing the point.
Also, wait and see how cheap the Panthers go with re-signing their own FAs and virtually not signing any other team's FAs that have any worth, even if they could desperately use that FA player. They'll make a deal with a couple of their own FAs, but that will be it, and only if they accept a discount to stay on the team that drafted them.
Posted by: Meano | Jan 15, 2011 1:25:33 AM
jay gruden was a qb coach with TB in 2001-2003
Posted by: 2011panthers taking over | Jan 15, 2011 1:27:24 AM
I know this 2011panthers taking over. It stated he coached under his brother with the Bucs and won a SB in the article. This is why I stated "most" of his coaching experience came in the arena league instead of "all" his coaching experience. You follow?
Posted by: Meano | Jan 15, 2011 1:41:52 AM
I agree with you Meano, it's easy to see Jerry will still be trying to run and man the Panthers as cheap as he possibly can. He was lucky to get a good candidate in Rivera to take the job for as little as his contract is. I wouldn't count on getting any proven quality OC or DC either. They may end getting someone good, but it will most likely be someone new to the position and willing to work cheap too.
Posted by: Out of town Panther fan | Jan 15, 2011 6:28:34 AM
and if jerry is being cheap with these coach hires why should i think he's going to be not be cheap when it comes to signing free agents. face it people jerry richardson has changed....alot from who he was 15 years ago and as of "right now" he's a terrible! owner.
Posted by: Cheven | Jan 15, 2011 9:50:04 AM
You guys are dumber than a sack of hammers. First year head coaches typically make around $2 million a year. The average salary is $3.25 million. Bill Belichick makes around $7.5 million. John Fox's new deal is rumored to be around $3 to $3.5 million. So, sounds like a fair deal for Rivera to me.
And Gruden is expected to be the QB coach.
Wait and see Meano.
Posted by: Zach | Jan 15, 2011 11:09:46 AM
It doesn't matter if the hire is cheap so long as the coach has valuable coaching talents. Rivera certainly has those.
One thing you can depend on is that JR will make great business decisions has he always has!
Jon Gruden was the coach i wanted but i fully support Rivera, he's young, hungry, very knowledgeable, and will do great things in Carolina!!! Im ok with Jay Gruden, he's a proven winner and Rivera will make sure whoever is hired at OC he will be innovated and efficient.
Posted by: koda57 | Jan 15, 2011 11:27:06 AM
It's not hard to be a better QB coach than RIP from Cleveland!..aside from Skipper and Meeks all of Fox's cronies can go to Denver to make them worse...Hey MRBernze what are you getting Fox for Valentines day!
Posted by: hellfish | Jan 15, 2011 11:31:39 AM
I know from having worked for Richardson that the man genuinely cares for his fans. He also has a great desire to win as he has always been successful. It might not seem that way after the yr. we had but be patient and you will see a great NFL franchise in Charlotte. Every team goes through tough times.
As long as JR is alive our Panthers are going in a good direction, it's when he's gone that things could go down hill.
Posted by: koda57 | Jan 15, 2011 11:38:01 AM
Cheap Richardson paid a coach over $6 million to go 2-14. What is Fox getting in Denver? It isn't 6+ a year. Guess Fox is willing to work "cheap" also. I personally am excited for the change. My beef with Fox was his inability to DEVELOP talent. (WR) We need more teacher coaches with passion. Sometimes that means hiring younger coaches. Yes you get them cheaper but they bring a lot of energy. If we get a mix of experience of veteran coaches with some new younger coaches, that seems about right.
Posted by: JP | Jan 15, 2011 11:42:01 AM
Teaching coaches are who get teams to the playoffs year after year. Last week during the Jets win over Indy, I saw Rex Ryan teaching players on the sideline to make a certain move to get off their block. Last year at training camp I saw Ron Meeks do alot of hands on teaching, as well as Brian Baker. We need more coaches like that around here. All I ever saw Fox do was cheer his players on, good play or bad.
Posted by: heelfan#1 | Jan 15, 2011 12:04:12 PM
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Posted by: Jeffrey P | Jan 15, 2011 12:26:08 PM
According to the Gaston Gazette, "It’s expected Gruden might be up for Carolina’s quarterbacks coach job, not the vacant offensive coordinator position. The Panthers could certainly use a quarterbacks coach to tutor young Jimmy Clausen." (Really? A QB coach? What a novel idea.)
"Gruden, a former college quarterback at Louisville, is the head coach of the UFL’s Virginia Destroyers, which just relocated to Virginia Beach and were formerly known as the Florida Tuskers.
He's a legend of sorts in the Arena League, having won six championships there."
Not a bad hire, in my opinion, as long as it IS, in fact, QB coach he is hired for and not OC. We need a more proven OC and there are candidates available I would trust more for that particular job, personally. Maybe he could be an OC in the future after he gets some experience in the NFL, but since he has a history of winning in an offense driven league (AFL) I think he deserves a shot at the NFL at an assistant level and maybe he can provide some fresh ideas for this team.
Posted by: OBXsurfer4 | Jan 15, 2011 2:49:53 PM
I have read that the average head coach salary in the NFL is 2.5 million a year. Doesn't sound cheap to pay a guy with no HC experience around the average pay to me.
Posted by: John | Jan 15, 2011 4:28:53 PM
Josh McDaniel for OC please spend the money for this!
Posted by: John | Jan 15, 2011 4:31:13 PM
Which person is the highest on Clausen's ability? That would be John Gruden. If we hire Jay Gruden as QB coach, he would have some insight from his brother on how to fix Jimmy.
Posted by: Darrell | Jan 15, 2011 6:37:26 PM
Gruden as QB Coach would be great, not sure about his abilities on the OC front. Hopefully Trestman is still in the mix, he could bring a lot to the table. Chudzinski might be OK but we dont really know what we are getting since he is a TE coach.
Posted by: manu4t | Jan 15, 2011 7:33:27 PM
Meano is a fag!
Posted by: Reginald Spicyweiner | Jan 15, 2011 8:57:30 PM
Jay Gruden was a Player Coach, (Played QB) for Orlando, and worked with the QB coach in Tampa Bay. I think he is a great choice as an assistant, but I have my doubts about him as the OC.
Posted by: Jose | Jan 15, 2011 9:20:17 PM
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