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February 28, 2011

A surprise at No. 1 for the Panthers?

Observer reporter Joe Person talks about the NFL Draft Combine:

Posted by Observer Sports on February 28, 2011 at 10:56 AM | Permalink

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Bottomline, offense needs to be addressed. No more dud DE's, no overrated DT, no WR before a QB, draft Newton please. I would actually want to watch & attend games if Newton was QB, at the very least they would be entertaining.

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 28, 2011 11:17:24 AM

Bottomline, offense needs to be addressed. No more dud DE's, no overrated DT, no WR before a QB, draft Newton please. I would actually want to watch & attend games if Newton was QB, at the very least they would be entertaining.

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 28, 2011 11:17:25 AM

Sorry for the double post!

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 28, 2011 11:18:31 AM

I'm for Cam Newton as well. Anyone who thinks Jimmy Clausen is the answer, or possible answer, obviously didn't pay attention to details or the overall product during the 2010 season. If you're a true Panther fan you have to want some playmaking appeal at QB. Cam Newton brings that.

Posted by: Al | Feb 28, 2011 11:30:06 AM

Newton will be a bust......so drafting him would be stupid....

Posted by: Newton is a bust | Feb 28, 2011 11:34:42 AM

Trade the number picks for more picks. Let Rivera place more of his players on this team

Posted by: QuasiYoda | Feb 28, 2011 11:41:14 AM

Assuming Newton does not become the second coming of Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell, he's still won't be ready to play and lead the team until year 3, a la, Phillip Rivers in San Diego. We have bunches of immediate needs, so please don't waste the 1st pick on someone who needs to gather lots of splinters. I'm not against trading down and taking Newton lower in the round, though.

Posted by: PantherFancier | Feb 28, 2011 11:43:51 AM

Assuming Newton does not become the second coming of Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell, he's still won't be ready to play and lead the team until year 3, a la, Phillip Rivers in San Diego. We have bunches of immediate needs, so please don't waste the 1st pick on someone who needs to gather lots of splinters. I'm not against trading down and taking Newton lower in the round, though.

Posted by: PantherFancier | Feb 28, 2011 11:43:51 AM

Assuming Newton does not become the second coming of Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell, he's still won't be ready to play and lead the team until year 3, a la, Phillip Rivers in San Diego. We have bunches of immediate needs, so please don't waste the 1st pick on someone who needs to gather lots of splinters. I'm not against trading down and taking Newton lower in the round, though.

Posted by: PantherFancier | Feb 28, 2011 11:43:51 AM

Assuming Newton does not become the second coming of Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell, he's still won't be ready to play and lead the team until year 3, a la, Phillip Rivers in San Diego. We have bunches of immediate needs, so please don't waste the 1st pick on someone who needs to gather lots of splinters. I'm not against trading down and taking Newton lower in the round, though.

Posted by: PantherFancier | Feb 28, 2011 11:43:51 AM

AJ Green, Petterson, or Cam

Posted by: Rain Man | Feb 28, 2011 11:46:05 AM

I know this will be virtually Impossible to do, particularly with the labor strife, yet…hype up Cam Newton so another team will reach up to trade a 1st and 2nd with the Panthers. The Skins at 10 and 41, the Vikings at 12 and 43, the Jags at 16 and 49, the 49ers at 7 and 45…possibly the Cardinals at 5 and 38 are all possibilities. The ONLY way another team will bite is if they KNOW A) Cam is Thee man, and B) If the other teams know the Panthers will pull the trigger on the pick.
But, if the bluff fails, by all means don’t take another project QB. Cam won’t be ready until 2013.

The Panthers have to somehow fix the MAJOR screwup by drafting the worthless Armanti Edwards. I can't believe we wasted a 2nd and 3rd pick on this ASU flop.

Posted by: Dug E Fresh | Feb 28, 2011 11:49:24 AM

Bottomline, offense needs to be addressed. No more dud DE's, no overrated DT, no WR before a QB, draft Newton please. I would actually want to watch & attend games if Newton was QB, at the very least they would be entertaining.

Why draft a Qb who might not even be a day 1 starter? Be kinda stupid to draft a "project" who won't play 2-3yrs down the road anyway. I rather take a chance and draft a player who will impact the game rightaway, not someone who will need to sit and learn. That would be waisting a pick/money.

"Anyone who thinks Jimmy Clausen is the answer, or possible answer, obviously didn't pay attention to details or the overall product during the 2010 season. If you're a true Panther fan you have to want some playmaking appeal at QB. Cam Newton brings that".

Who in hell could have success with a lmae duck coach who knows nothing about developing Qb's? Likes to meddling with his coordinators etc etc. I'm no Clausen fan but tell me how many guys come from a 1 read or run offense had success at the nfl level such as Newton?

They might as well draft a Qb for the next 5 yrs, since this fanbase like to "give up" on you after 1yr.

We don't even know if the new staff can actually develop a QB. Drafting another Qb for the 2nd straight yr(3 overall to go with Clausen, Pike and Newton) is stupid. I guess whoever wins the heisman trophy should be drafted #1 overall by you and D.W.G standards? This is a bad yr to have the #1 overall pick period. None of these Qb's are day 1 starters( maybe Mallet).

Posted by: jerome carter | Feb 28, 2011 12:09:15 PM

@ Dug E Fresh

Great post, thank goodness D.W.G and Al aren't the GM of the team lol(even though someone would be an upgrade over Hurney). They probably( not going to assume) was on the Luck bandwagon before he decided to stay in school and now want Newton( a project) as the #1 overall pick who won't bring entertainment until 2013 as a starter.

Posted by: oh wow | Feb 28, 2011 12:12:40 PM

why is it whenever someone compares Newton to a QB it's always Russel or Young? Why don't you compare him to a white Qb? Bottom line is clausen was never good at the college level.He won the games he should have and was never competetive in the big games.People need to realize the days of drop back passing are gone.When you have DE and Lb runnig sub 4.5 40's you don't have time to do a 5step drop. The kid is talented with a good running game,smith and if we can get shockey i dont see why he couldn't step in a run the system.

Posted by: Panther fan | Feb 28, 2011 12:22:25 PM

a rookie newton, will still win more games than a 2nd year clausen.if newton starts we win 5-6 games at least..

Posted by: callingitlikeiseeit | Feb 28, 2011 12:23:27 PM

a rookie newton, will still win more games than a 2nd year clausen.if newton starts we win 5-6 games at least..

Posted by: callingitlikeiseeit | Feb 28, 2011 12:23:27 PM

for everyone sayin we need positions now and Cam won't be ready until 3 yrs down the line say we do take a DT, WR, CB, DE? The QB position still needs to be addressed so now you could have seen improvement at the position in "3 years" but you didnt take the QB so now you won't be good there until 4-6 years. The fact of the matter is Cam is winner Clausen was the most PRO ready QB last year he had the worst passer rating. Bradford played in a spread, Colt McCoy in the spread and both had success

Posted by: KSnow | Feb 28, 2011 12:24:45 PM

I think I'm getting on the Newton bandwagon. As much as I think theres a huge risk of bust, the upside is incredible. Would it be so bad for the Panthers to have a true star that would get the rest of the league talking about them, the big arm, big athleticism, and big personality all could point to a future superstar...pull the trigger on it.

Posted by: Corey | Feb 28, 2011 12:46:53 PM

So UNC-CHeat's Quinn is the new pick? What a waste but not unexpected given the Panthers penchant to FAIL!

Posted by: John Blake | Feb 28, 2011 12:47:00 PM

Name someone, anyone that is "white" and is an athletically, gifted run-first QB like Newton for us to compare to Cam! We'll give you a couple minutes to finish your Google search for someone we've never heard of before. There isn't any "white" QB to compare to Cam Newton you moron! That's why he gets compared to Russell (size) and Young(gifted running style)! I swear idiots like you drive me crazy! You, and other lesser mature people, come on these boards and spew all this crap about Panther fans are racist/prejudiced because they don't want/aren't ready for a black QB. BUT, those same fans support a team that is predominantly black and want Fairley drafted (ahem, he's also black in case you didn't see that through your hatred-colored glasses)! How much sense do you make? Absolutely none! Grow up and go somewhere else with your race card rants. This is football and if you ever played football then you know that race has nothing to do with being a football player! Have a good day and please pull your head out of the sand!

Posted by: Reporter of the Obvious | Feb 28, 2011 1:02:08 PM

Name someone, anyone that is "white" and is an athletically, gifted run-first QB like Newton for us to compare to Cam! We'll give you a couple minutes to finish your Google search for someone we've never heard of before. There isn't any "white" QB to compare to Cam Newton you moron! That's why he gets compared to Russell (size) and Young(gifted running style)! I swear idiots like you drive me crazy! You, and other lesser mature people, come on these boards and spew all this crap about Panther fans are racist/prejudiced because they don't want/aren't ready for a black QB. BUT, those same fans support a team that is predominantly black and want Fairley drafted (ahem, he's also black in case you didn't see that through your hatred-colored glasses)! How much sense do you make? Absolutely none! Grow up and go somewhere else with your race card rants. This is football and if you ever played football then you know that race has nothing to do with being a football player! Have a good day and please pull your head out of the sand!

Posted by: Reporter of the Obvious | Feb 28, 2011 1:02:08 PM

I like how people on here are ready to say Armanti is a flop, and we wasted a 2nd rounder on him when Fox BARELY played the kid and Davidson's timing for throwing him in the game and play calls designed for him were so poorly drafted it was almost a joke. It was obvious they didn't really care to play their rookies or create an environment to see any of their rookies succeed in a lame duck season for both. So for you to prematurely judge shows a complete lack of intuition, NFL knowledge or reading between the lines on your part. I cannot fathom why there are people discrediting the play of Armanti already as worthless when the kid simply hasn't been given a chance to play! OK MAYBE after this season is over, and he doesn't get playing time or fails most of the time he gets on the field, then we can say the kid is bust , but until then, come off it!

Posted by: Shaun NJ | Feb 28, 2011 1:29:50 PM

"a rookie newton, will still win more games than a 2nd year clausen.if newton starts we win 5-6 games at least."

What makes you so sure if Cam N is drafted he will be a day 1 starter or play any games for a project this yr?

Since you are predicting how many games Cam N will win if he was to start, how many super bowls, pro bowl and All Pro teams will he make? Will he ever be in the same class of elite Qb's such as Brady, Manning, Bress, etc etc?

Posted by: jerome carter | Feb 28, 2011 1:34:54 PM

Big Ben would be the white guy in the modern age that Cam compares to. When you look purely at his raw physical abilities and size. If you wanted to compare him to a current black player, VY and J. Russell are not fair due to the fact that the only thing they have in common is their race. VY is mechanically flawed and is more of a long strider while Cam is way more agile & crafty in his running. J. Russell compares more favorably to Mallett than Cam (big arm, crumbles under pressure, no pocket presence) & even that is unfair. But honestly there is absolutely no league comparison at his position. No one has been this athletically gifted, while also being mechanically sound. He is a prototype. If you wanted to compare him physically it would have to be more so the hated J. Peppers. Bigger, faster, and more dominate at his position than any one could imagine. The only real question would be could he utilize those tools and be productive or will he be V. Ghoulsten, R. Leaf, or several other super talented guys that couldn't produce.

Posted by: BPtheRuler | Feb 28, 2011 1:46:58 PM

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