March 05, 2011
Panthers not sold on drafting D-lineman
While most of the mock drafts by national pundits have the Panthers taking a defensive lineman with the top pick, that is not necessarily the thinking within the organization.
Despite a need at defensive tackle, the Panthers' decision-makers are not sold on the idea of drafting a D-lineman at No. 1, a pair of league sources said this week.
As general manager Marty Hurney stated at the Senior Bowl in January, the Panthers want an impact player – and health issues surrounding a couple of the top defensive linemen have called into question how much of an impact they might make.
Clemson DE Da'Quan Bowers, who had arthroscopic knee surgery after the season, said at the combine he would work out at Clemson's pro day next week. Now he's pushed that back to April 1, when he will conduct a private workout at Death Valley.
Auburn DT Nick Fairley sprained the AC joint in his right shoulder late in the season and did not bench in Indy.
After a disappointing 2-14 season in 2010 and criticism from a fan base upset about the lack of significant personnel additions last year, the Panthers could stand to make a splash with the first No. 1 pick in franchise history (they traded the top pick in 1995).
So who do the Panthers take?
They'll take long looks at the two players considered to be the top quarterbacks – Auburn's Cam Newton and Missouri's Blaine Gabbert. Obviously, there are more unknowns with Newton but the possibility of more upside, as well.
And though a cornerback has never gone No. 1, don't be surprised if LSU CB Patrick Peterson gets in the conversation. Peterson had a strong showing in Indy and has the added bonus of being a talented – and willing – kick and punt returner.
Posted by Observer Sports on March 5, 2011 at 04:03 PM | Permalink
Marcel Dareus played thru most of last season on a high ankle sprain and has no significant health history. He's a three year starter and produced the entire time. He's not as flashy as Fairley, but just as effective and really showed out in Indy. IMO, Dareus is a no brainer, a day one starter and impact player.
Posted by: Joat | Mar 5, 2011 4:20:56 PM
pATTERSON OR dAREUS
WOULD BE GREAT PICKS....PLS JUST THESE TWO GUYS....FORGET THE OTHERS.....
Posted by: Scott | Mar 5, 2011 4:31:21 PM
Not surprised at all: http://bit.ly/NFLMockDraft3
Posted by: Lech112 | Mar 5, 2011 4:32:12 PM
Trade the Pick to the Bengals swap picks and give them one of our third round Picks for Palmer, then the guy you were going to pick anyways will be there at 4.........
Posted by: PaantherFan | Mar 5, 2011 4:35:03 PM
I love! it! please take CAM! this franchise is in need! of a franchise QB and Jimmy Clausen is not it! I think Cam will be the next Josh Freeman! I'm not concerned about some imcomplete passes vs air! at the combine I've seen his accuracy vs humans! he did complete around 66% of his passes! no way in the world am I taking a DT with the #1 pick if I don't have a franchise QB....is cam a reach at #1...possibly..but this franchise has put themselves in a position where we have no choice but to reach....due to several other personal moves in the past few years...
Posted by: Cheven | Mar 5, 2011 4:51:35 PM
if we could get the bengals to trade palmer and switch first round picks. dream come true.sign tommie harris and shaun rogers to dl. Then go for the throat and draft the wr out of georgia.
Posted by: joe cool | Mar 5, 2011 5:00:50 PM
Shaun Rogers signed with the Saints and i highly doubt will be able to trade and get Palmer. We already have young wide outs with talent, so why not draft Peterson. He is the cleanest player in the top ten and can return punts and kicks also. So, keep our first pick and take Peterson, then take a solid tight end in the third round.
Posted by: Joe smoe | Mar 5, 2011 5:10:54 PM
Panthers should trade down the 1st pick for additional picks since there is nothing worth the top 1 pick this year. My thought will be nice from other team 2011 1st round pick and 2012 1st round pick and 2011 3rd round pick. Don't go after Cam Newton
Posted by: sean | Mar 5, 2011 5:23:38 PM
Shockey = Solid TE, barring he stays healthy, but I will take my chances. I will be enraged if they take Peterson. Why take a corner with the first pick, or at all for that matter. How about just resigning richard marshall?? Our pass D was actually top ranked last year, that's nowhere near our biggest need. If possible, the flip with the bengals while adding palmer would be great. Then take AJ Green.
Posted by: rick | Mar 5, 2011 5:25:39 PM
Btw, why isn't marty hurney being called out for trading away our 2nd round pick for a standout Div II QB converted WR (even though he can't catch) That pick is a such a huge loss for this franchise.
Posted by: rick | Mar 5, 2011 5:31:56 PM
who said Armanti can't catch? He is actually said to have excellent hands. Gee in case you missed it, Davidson and Fox had no pro or even quality college, heck even High school offensive plan. No motion patterns, no or floods, no crossing scissors or snag or 'pick' plays in passing game. No special plays for Smitty even other than spot screen, which doesn't work anymore or with no companion plays, or a end around. if Billichek had Smitty or Armanti then he'd be a Welker (who did nothing in the league till year three then all pro) or a Broadhead. Let's see what Smitty, Armanti, Shockley, Gettis, Lafell can do in the new offense that will have plays designed to the strengths of the players not a jr high outdated offense that tried to fit talent into broken molds.
Posted by: isaiah | Mar 5, 2011 6:16:08 PM
btw, we could simply pass on our pick like Minnesota did years ago and pick 2 or 3 or 4th. Please don't trade with NE or Philly who always seem to take advantage of us. Cincy if we can swing the right deal. I would also love a shut down corner and let Marshall walk or resign him, we do play in a passing league with 1 elite and 2 above average QB's.
Posted by: isaiah | Mar 5, 2011 6:27:03 PM
Whatever Chico wants, I'm with it.
Posted by: Pantherfan81 | Mar 5, 2011 6:41:09 PM
I have said from day 1 we need to pick up Patrick Peterson or AJ green. But I wouldnt be mad at Cam that pick would show me our organization is willing to take a chance to be great! I wouldnt be mad with thm rolling the dice every once in a while. Safe=mediocre gotta take risks in life but Patrick Peterson hands down has the most value with his skillset, and measurables.
Posted by: snowman926 | Mar 5, 2011 7:24:25 PM
Take Von Miller dammit. The guy is a monster and would fit nicely with Beason and Thomas Davis
Posted by: sean | Mar 5, 2011 7:32:19 PM
I genuinely hope that the organization isn't so desperate to placate the fan base that they'll take Newton. The thought terrifies me, especially since Newton has more question marks stuck all over him than The Riddler. Why would we waste that pick on another QB project when we could address another need? Take Peterson - it makes sense. Gamble is aging, Marshall isn't coming back, and Munnerlyn is a nickel.
Posted by: JF | Mar 5, 2011 7:44:12 PM
We don't need a LB sean. James Anderson played amazingly well last season.
Peterson or Dareus!!!!!
Posted by: Sin | Mar 5, 2011 7:49:21 PM
We do not want waste this by taking Newton. I'm afraid no one will work a deal to let us trade down, but I would love to trade down a few spots and get a couple of additional picks.
Posted by: TheDorkLord | Mar 5, 2011 8:07:37 PM
Will Cam N be a day 1 starter? I sure don't see it, more of a 2-3yr project. He will end time to develop, in which why you don't select a player #1 overall who will have to sit and learn. Especially fan and owners not being patient enough for you develop properly. Also player selected in the top 10 are day 1 starters.
I would like a DT, but not #1 overall. DT selected #1 overall doesn't pan out. I also would love PP, but db aren't taking #1 overall. He better be a Revis or Woodson worth taken him with the 1st pick.
Blaine G is a joke, never would have heard about the guy if Luck never had stayed in school. Heck he was mediocre at best with 16tds and 9ints in the Big 12( that plays no defense besides the CornHuskers) and was horrendous in the bowl game. He is Alex Smith all over again.
Posted by: jerome carter | Mar 5, 2011 8:18:47 PM
Gabbert strengths are:
-He has a GQ Face and personality. Good brand image for any team lol.
-He has great size
-He is mobile
-Extremely accurate and smooth when throwing short yards (10yrd or less) especially to the RIGHT side of the field
- He has the Media on his side
- He's from a well respected family
Throw on the run: He can't throw well on the run, if you doubt it go watch his tapes in college, lots of his interception has been from this, the most obvious one was the knuckle headed decision he did at his last bowl game against Iowa that led to his second interception and thereby sealing defeat for his team.
Deep throw: Watching lots of his college games, he's not accurate and comfortable throwing deep throws, those he did at college are mostly down the field with his receivers (TJ MOE) making good catch.
Toughness: He seems to have problems when he's been pressured. For whatever reason he's afraid of QB rush. He's lucky he didn't play at SEC, where you have fast LB with bad intentions...if he did, i can guarantee you, we won't be talking about him now. Most of his bad throws have been as a result of this. He's definitely not a tough QB. And yes you don't teach toughness, the best you do as a coach is ensure best protection to inspire confidence. If Carolina thinks they have super protection for him incase he's drafted... Good luck with that.
Pocket presence: He doesn't stay that much in the pocket, it definitely ties to the above points.
Locks: He locks too much to a favorite receiver TJ MOE (#28). He doesn't go a lot to other people. Well.. in the NFL locking to one favorite player is a sure sign for "picks" that is for sure
Overall.... He will get a shot playing Qb in the NFL. But to consider him as the best QB in this yr draft (which to me is maybe Mallet or Ponder) and deserve being the number #1 pick overall is silly. It sure would result in a superb job done by his marketing folks and his media cohorts who have sold an average QB at best as the hottest player in the 2011 draft.
Posted by: jerome carter | Mar 5, 2011 8:23:02 PM
Theirs no "franchise Qb" in this draft, so don't reach up on 1. I just find it funny how Blaine G is being hype up when not many ppl have ever heard of the guy. All we kept hearing was Andrew L, who is 100xs better than him. Luck sure did help Gabbert draft stock with Luck in school. Now some team who is desperate will reach up on him to end up a bust.
Oh yeah if our fans( not all of them) are throwing Clausen under the bus, imagine what will happend to Cam N or Gabbert if they sucked?
If Cam N does have a great pro day, some team who is really desperate will give up alot for him. Newton didn't hurt his draft stock by throwing at the combine. I have to wonder if Gabbert performed horribles, would he still be consider as the best Qb in the draft? Must be living off the hype.
Posted by: oh wow | Mar 5, 2011 8:30:06 PM
Please take Patrick Peterson #1!
Posted by: garronb | Mar 5, 2011 8:39:17 PM
"Why take a corner with the first pick, or at all for that matter. How about just resigning richard marshall?? Our pass D was actually top ranked last year, that's nowhere near our biggest need."
When team already have a 2-3 score lead on you, why pass the ball when you can run out the clock? Marshall stated that the Panthers aren't going to resign him.
"Gamble is aging"
How is 27yr old soon to be 28 is aging? Please explain that one.
"Please don't trade with NE or Philly who always seem to take advantage of us"
NE yes, Philly? No Jeff O is solid when healthy that is. Philly used our 09 1st rounder(28th) and their own 3rd to acquire the LT from the Bills by the name of Jason P.
If you said the 49ers then yes, well not really because they draft a LG who is a good run blocker, but can't pass protect to save his life.
"I think Cam will be the next Josh Freeman"
Let's see here, Josh F has a far superior work ethic than Newton. Can read defenses, something Newton haven't done. So to compare him to Freeman is silly. Only thing they have that is similar is height,weight, and is very mobile.
Posted by: oh wow | Mar 5, 2011 8:52:09 PM
who in the heck wants carson palmer. My god, he's been a huge disappointment his entire career. Despite what he says, he cost cincinnati four games last year on his own. He's a whiner and has been prone to poor fourth quarter performances as a pro. that's a fan's statement, to be sure.
Posted by: ron | Mar 5, 2011 9:32:59 PM
Anyone think we could trade our pick with Cincinnati for Carson Palmer? Probably a long shot but just a thought. There really is no clear number one choice, so why not offer a deal for him.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 5, 2011 9:46:53 PM
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