April 30, 2011
Rivera: 'I laid it out' to CB Hogan
Here's what coach Ron Rivera and GM Marty Hurney had to say about fourth-round draft pick Brandon Hogan, who battled injuries and off-the-field issues at West Virginia, where he had 37 tackles, six pass breakup and three interceptions last fall.
"With the research we did on him, some flags do come up," said Rivera. "But I had a very nice conversation with him. I laid it out. There's no three strikes you're out. You're here to do it our way, the right way, the Panthers way. If not, there will be some consequences. He seemed to understand that."
Said Hurney: "It came down to decision making. He admits he made bad decisions. He knows he can't make any more bad decisions."
Top-pick Cam Newton also had off-field issues in college. Newton left Florida after a stolen laptop arrest and allegations of academic cheating. He also was investigated by the NCAA last fall after his father orchestrated a $200,000 pay-for-play scheme with Mississippi State.
Hurney was asked if there was a shift in the Panthers' philosophy of staying away from drafting players with character issues.
"I separate the two," Hurney said of Newton and Hogan's circumstances. "(But) it is a little bit."
Other draft notes
The Panthers had three compensatory picks in this draft. The one they used in the third round (taking Stanford defensive tackle Sione Fua) was awarded Carolina after Julius Peppers left via free agency after the 2009 season. The compensatory pick in the sixth round (guard Zack Williams) came after quarterback A.J. Feeley departed as a free agent in '09.
Their seventh-rounder (offensive tackle Lee Ziemba) came from an NFL rule that awards additional compensatory picks at the end of the seventh round to bring the total number of compensatory picks to 32 (the number of teams in the NFL).
The Panthers didn't have their own seventh rounder because they traded it conditionally to the Green Bay Packers in 2009 for long snapper J.J. Jansen.
-- Two Panthers' draft selections played in the Meineke Car Care Bowl (now the Belk Bowl) at Bank of America Stadium in college. Defensive tackle Terrell McClain's South Florida team beat Clemson 31-26 last December. Linebacker Lawrence Wilson and Connecticut lost to Wake Forest 24-10 in 2007.
A third, Hogan, didn't play for West Virginia against North Carolina in 2008 bowl because of personal reasons.
-- Ziemba played golf Saturday instead of watching the draft. He shot a personal best 83, but said being drafted by the Panthers was a bigger deal.
"I can play golf any time," Ziemba said.
Ziemba thought the draft was over after he played golf and was driving to his parents' house in Alabama when Carolina coach Rivera called him.
"It was a good day," said Ziemba.
-- David Scott
Posted by Observer Sports on April 30, 2011 at 09:20 PM | Permalink
Hurney is a jellyfish what every way the wind is blowing, He should have been fired and we should have keep Fox!!
Posted by: rickmcc | Apr 30, 2011 9:31:03 PM
I hereby resolve not to be a Cam Newton hater unless he gives me a reason to be. I am not yet a Cam Newton fan. Win me over on the field, big guy.
Posted by: BullCityDog | Apr 30, 2011 9:34:47 PM
Marty Hurney is flat full of it.
Posted by: shots956 | Apr 30, 2011 9:43:20 PM
At least the new sheriff in town doesn't play, Fox would have kept us in the dark about the whole process of drafting Hogan without a word.
Posted by: CEREBRUM | Apr 30, 2011 9:46:41 PM
Taking a chance on players with character issues rarely pays off, just look how it worked for the Titans, Bengals, Raiders or the Cowboys when they gave it a shot picking up Pac-Man Jones when the Titans had enough of him. Something tells me the Panthers will regret going down this road. I'd rather lose with class, than win with trash.
Posted by: Out of town Panther fan | Apr 30, 2011 9:53:19 PM
If the Panthers would have had this way of thinking when Michael Vick was a free agent things would be quite different.....
I think these guys are late to the dance.....
Posted by: Scott | Apr 30, 2011 9:56:17 PM
I am so disappointed in the Panthers. Hurnia has to go, and Rivera isn't making a good impression.
I will not be attending a Panthers game this fall even if the tickets are free.
Posted by: freeagentfan | Apr 30, 2011 11:05:24 PM
Ron Rivera Was the steal for the panthers For the next 15 years. This guy is a BEAST - You watch - Drew Brees and Matt Ryan wont be dancing around that pocket with him around. And by god if Cam newton is able to convert Third Downs lol.. Well be Fine.
GO RON RIVERA - Andrew Luck your poor guy.. Good Luck
Posted by: nick | Apr 30, 2011 11:07:49 PM
Those that forget their DWI history are doomed to repeat it... Kerry Collins, Todd Sauerbrun, Jarrod Cooper, Dwayne Jarrett... why bother with Hogan? It just makes no sense. Surely there were better options at DB on the board at the top of the 4th.
Posted by: john858 | Apr 30, 2011 11:08:28 PM
i wasn't sold on Cam until Thursday. Now i have three Newtown jerseys...black, electric blue, and white. I'm starting to think that Cam is an upstanding kid who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in college. He was probably set up. Go panthers!
Posted by: JohhnyBurrito | Apr 30, 2011 11:21:36 PM
The person who thinks Fox should've been kept and Hurney is fired is crazy. There's a reason why guys like Vick weren't looked at while Fox was here. Shockey would've never been signed. It wasn't because of Hurney. Panthers have a fresh start and if you're really a fan, you'll give them credit for what they are trying to do in building this franchise towards a winner. This city and region have wanted a consistent winner for too long. I have nothing but praise for Rivera thus far. He's part of making some bold moves for the better.
Posted by: PantherDave | Apr 30, 2011 11:36:25 PM
Shockey is the guy to bring "Cam" down to earth/reality or they both could be a very Flammable MIX. S&%t! I didn't think of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: 10-4! | May 1, 2011 1:14:39 AM
So why didn't Rivera lay it out to "Cam"? Because of his "Color"???? I am confused!
Posted by: 10-4! | May 1, 2011 1:35:38 AM
I am very aware of the reasons.
Certain wrongs don't make rights, don't forget lack of accountabilty(going for it when the coach says down it). If you try and justify a wrong you are the ignorant one..
Posted by: 10-4! | May 1, 2011 1:42:32 AM
I was at the kick ball tournament yesterday and saw Steve S., Deangelo, Armanti, Clausen and Cam Newton together. It struck me that if we can't get an explosive offense out of that core group, we have a big problem. NEXT SEASON there has to be plays that take advantage of these guys' elusiveness and power...it will start with giving the QB some time to operate...a big question mark. Unfortunately, we were scared of bringing Michael Vick's baggage here when he got out of prison (he would have been much cheaper than CN), but JR has indicated that he and the partners are feeling the financial heat with his "choir boys" comment. If he said it, I can promise you there have been lots of discussions over whether it is more important to be pristine or win some games...with bank accounts shrinking, I can tell you it's the latter.
Posted by: co reader | May 1, 2011 8:04:22 AM
Is what it is....LOL
Posted by: John Fox | May 1, 2011 10:17:38 AM
If Ziemba is so good, why was he there at the end of the draft? Hogan will be a washout here, like a certain receiver who was cut during the middle of last season. His off-field troubles are not worthy of a Panthers jersey, especially already having 3+ strikes on him during his time at WVU...
Posted by: Scott B | May 1, 2011 10:26:14 AM
After Newton we pick Mr.Irrelevant every pick it looks like!
Posted by: Rae Carruth | May 1, 2011 11:22:18 AM
I outdrafted Rivera and i got fired?.. Well every team out=drafted the Panthers!
Posted by: John Fox | May 1, 2011 11:24:11 AM
THE WORST DRAFT IN NFL HISTORY !!!
Posted by: Tonn D | May 1, 2011 12:25:00 PM
The Panther's are now Super Bowl contenders with their excellent 2011 draft! Go Panthers. Kick some NFC South butt!!!
Posted by: Dave | May 1, 2011 12:28:41 PM
Dave, please tell me you are kidding? Newton shouldn't even see the field this year. He isn't ready and I'm not about to hope that we ruin another QB after Fox spent last year screwing with Clausen.
Posted by: Adam | May 1, 2011 12:51:46 PM
Hogan is not better than Kendric Burney. Nice that Jerry had hip pocket boy Tom out to the house. Guess he was too busy sipping his slow gin fizz to ask a tough question of the owner. Most PSL owners would probably not be so enamored of his clock but might have advice on where he can put it. Same guys that told us Clausen was franchise qb now have another one and are still paying Jake. Another 2 wins are ahead and with their o-line Panthers will play at least 3 qbs this season
Posted by: Joe Friday | May 1, 2011 12:56:31 PM
So Adam, you want to keep a first round pick who is going to be paid 50+ million on the bench? How is he not ready? Jimmeh ran a "pro style" offense along with Lienart & Quinn in college, how'd that work out again for them?
Clausen had his chance & blew it. Moore stepped in with the same team and won two games. Jimmeh is a career back-up at best, so stop making excuses for sorry QB play.
Posted by: D.W.G. | May 1, 2011 4:22:14 PM
Man, people are so down because of the last few years that we still act like John Fox is coach. Ron Rivera has brought a new mentality to this team. Even his quote, "the right way...the Panthers way" no coach has ever talked like that around here, except maybe Capers.
I for one am pretty excited about the new look Panthers. It can't get much worse than last year anway.
Posted by: The Panthers Way Sounds Good | May 1, 2011 4:32:24 PM
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