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May 16, 2011

Appeals court keeps lockout in place

The NFL lockout is staying in place ... and figures to stretch at least into June.

The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis ruled today that the league's lockout of its players should remain in effect at least until June 3 when the same court hears an appeal on whether the lockout, now in its 10th week, is legal.

The appellate court had the same 2-1 vote as it did last month in granting a temporary stay.

It was a setback for the players after an earlier federal court victory in Minneapolis.

Panthers punter Jason Baker, one of the team's NFLPA representatives, said players would stay the course, despite Monday's ruling.

“It's unfortunate for the people who want the players on the field. But it seems that we have to wait a bit longer to get back to normal work,” Baker said in a text message.

“In the meantime, the players will just continue to stay our course and prepare as well as we can for the time when we can go back to work, continue to be fiscally responsible and trust our leadership to continue to work toward the quickest resolution.”

Panthers tight end Dante Rosario, a potential free agent, wanted to hear from Baker and the team's other NFLPA leaders before commenting on the appellate court's decision.

“We'll probably get an email from our reps informing us where we stand right now,” Rosario said Monday night. “I'm assuming we'll get that (today).”

The Eighth Circuit determined the league "likely will suffer some degree of irreparable harm without a stay" of the April 25 decision by U.S. District Judge Susan Nelson to lift the lockout.

The ruling came hours after players and owners, including Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, resumed court-ordered mediation for the first time since April 20. The two sides are scheduled to talk again today.

But with the June 3 appeal on the horizon, most observers -- as well as Steelers president Art Rooney II -- were not optimistic that a new CBA would be reached before then.

The NFLPA, now operating as a trade association, issued the following statement:

“The NFL’s request for a stay of the lockout that was granted today means no football. The players are in mediation and are working to try to save the 2011 season. The court will hear the full appeal on June 3.”

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on May 16, 2011 at 07:41 PM | Permalink


The owners are going win this thing and the season will start in late October...

Posted by: Scott | May 16, 2011 8:54:27 PM

The owners and players are both greedy (kind of like Cecil Newton). LOL. They just need to hurry up and work this deal out.
Oh yeah, Scam Newton = Bust,bbbust,bbust,bbust,bust! LOL

Posted by: Panther Fan | May 16, 2011 9:43:27 PM

@Scott - Maybe not October, but I have been saying since March, this was going into late July or late August.. This is why most of the draft picks will have a difficult time adjusting. Especially Cam Newton, this was a really bad choice. He needs as much time as possible to learn the playbook, and how to take a snap from the center.. Late October would be the earliest he will see a game the longer this goes on..

Posted by: Catsnmbr1Fan | May 16, 2011 10:30:29 PM

What is omitted is the real losers who is America since 90% of revenue is made off tv advertisement not ticket prices.
Advertisements on tv cost billions and this causes everything to skyrocket soaking households.

Cutting their own throats is putting it mild for these greedy union extortionists trying to socialize business with anti owner failed incompetent ideology.

Business is business. The only way to solve the problem is give players 24 hrs to sign up or get cut and hire new. Contrary to mindwash these are not the best. Not even close. These are just the ones who stuck out the attrition and too dumb to do anything else.

Talent today is a fraction the quality it once was not to mention loss of integrity that gets worse. The pros are filled with illiterates who cant even spell their own names.

Time to clean up the system. Weed out the worms.

Posted by: abe parker | May 17, 2011 7:35:43 AM

ABE brings up a good point. It really pisses me off that the NFL and the owners are sucking up to the ticket/PSL owners. The ones they should be talking to are the people who watch on TV. That is where the money is made, not at the game.

Posted by: Steven | May 17, 2011 7:42:06 AM

@ panther fan why do you want your qb to be a bust?@cats#1 it is not rocket science to learn how to take a snap, plus he has a playbook and is learning it as we speak.

Posted by: camisQB. | May 17, 2011 8:56:20 AM

You have to suck up tp the PSL owners and people who buy the tickets because if they don't then the people who watch it on tv don't get to see it because it is blacked out. And money is made at the game, thats why ticket prices, concessions, and merchandise sold at the games are so high. If they didn't make money at the games then they wouldn't even sell tickets to them

Posted by: josh | May 17, 2011 9:59:29 AM

The owners apparently have presented the players with a new proposed CBA. What's in it? Anything new? It's time to get out of the courtroom and back to the table for some serious good faith bargaining. Don't know if D. Smith is capable of good faith bargaining!

Posted by: SC Ken | May 17, 2011 10:14:02 AM

I think they are getting what they deserve. They mostly vote Republican because they make a lot of money and those are the activist judges that are hellbent on dismantling collective bargaining for all Americans, except of course, the corporations which are considered persons.

Posted by: timetraveler | May 17, 2011 10:33:26 AM

Abe, you clearly haven't been following this story very closely.

The players aren't trying to extort anything here - they want to keep playing. The NFL owners opted out of the current agreement (which both sides agreed to a few years back) and have locked out the players. This work stoppage is entirely on the owners. It's a lockout - not a strike.

Posted by: GSO Cats Fan | May 17, 2011 10:46:50 AM

I will never spend another penny on the NFL. Never go to another game and buy an overpriced beer. Never buy merchandise. Big J can take his team and do something with it. If it is a rainly Sunday, I have nothing to do and they actually play, I might watch on TV.

Posted by: tellingthetruth | May 17, 2011 12:09:43 PM

@timetraveler -

Keep the political discourse from the lefties off of here - this isn't about politics, it is business and most if not all of the posturing is about leverage in negotiations.

To your "points" - since you hate corporations so much you must have equal disgust for the so called union the players had which dissolved quickly to file suit rather than remain in place to protect them, right? Clearly the union had no more intention of bargaining in good faith than did the owners. Of course, like any liberal, you conveniently leave this off the table....

Posted by: manu4t | May 17, 2011 1:45:38 PM

Owner should not give in, union are the reason why we pay high prices everywhere.
PSL holder

Posted by: ike | May 17, 2011 1:49:33 PM

I'm selling my PSLs whenever I can break even!!! Whenever this CBA gets worked out, JR will be working on his next adventure - screw current PSL owners out of a new stadium in the next 10-15 years. Will he let current PSL owners move into a new stadium on their current agreement? Will JR get tax money from city/county to pay for a new stadium? Or will he sell brand new PSLs for a new stadium? What will happen to us old PSL owners? I'm selling before it's too late!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pantherstalk | May 17, 2011 2:59:37 PM

@ Abe parker, America will be alright. TV will still spend 9 Billion dollars somewhere, because NIKE, REEBOK, UNDER ARMOR and all the rest will still advertise!!! America will be fine, TV will be fine, all the big advertisers will be fine and the billionaire owners will be fine. H#ll, they were billionaire to start with!!! The only people who might be hurt are the players. And I have nothing against Steve Smith, but he said he was selling his house because he got caught up when he bought it. Now he's down sizing. So whether he makes 3.5 million or 3.8 million this year I could care less. What else do the players need? A 3rd or 4th house or something. I know, maybe a bigger garage to put all their cars in. (probably could get the nascar hall of fame for that real cheap!!!) P.S. I LOVE PANTHER FOOTBALL, but anyone who thinks they're being hurt by no football, needs to take a day off and take their family to the beach or park, something.

Posted by: US Consumer | May 17, 2011 3:08:03 PM

Its funny how people claim to be panthers fans and in the article about the lockout people use it to criticize Cam and Jerry. Cam is the QB and Jerry is the owner neither is going anywhere. get over yourselves! And to the comment about cam needing to learn how to take a snap from center stop listening to all the so called analyst with nothing better to talk about it takes all of 5 min to learn how to take a snap from under center. lmao. people kill me.

Posted by: KSnow | May 17, 2011 3:12:21 PM

It's funny how all the Cam lovers act like Cam has already played in the NFl, and is going to be the savior of the Carolina Panthers. He's not the only quarterback on the team, and Cam hasn't played a down in the NFL. Good thing Cam is so overly confident and can sell himself. Maybe all you Cam lovers should get off his jock until he proves himself.

Posted by: Panther Fan | May 17, 2011 3:39:12 PM

So your not a fan if you criticize anything about your team. That is the dumbest thing I've ever read. I've been a Panther Fan since the beginning of the franchise (longer than most of you so-called fans). I wouldn't even know how to pull for another team, and will always pull for the Panthers. A lot of fans are frustrated with how we've been wasting draft picks last year, and this year.

Posted by: Panther Fan | May 17, 2011 3:57:17 PM

I meant to say the Panthers have wasted draft picks the past few years.

Posted by: Panther Fan | May 17, 2011 4:06:46 PM

Me hating on Cam has nothing to do with him taking snaps from center. It's the fact he's not an accurate passer, he's not any faster than a lot of other athletic QB's, you have to dumb down a playbook for him, I feel like Clausen and Moore got thrown under the bus, and we could of used that pick on a good player.

"Oh, but he's tall and athletic"(WOOPIDIDOODAH).

I betcha all the Cam lovers are the first ones out of the stadium, or the first ones to turn off the game when the Panthers aren't winning.

Posted by: Panther Fan | May 17, 2011 7:09:57 PM

And the dude has an enormous EGO!!!

Posted by: Panther Fan | May 17, 2011 7:11:32 PM

The NFL is over for 2011. Fans are turning into haters by the millions. What a mess.

Who is getting fucked? How about 300 million American aka THE MASSES. There is no escape. There are 2 billion tv sets in America. Everything goes up. America is bankrupt in debt 15 trillion with 5 trillion of that in just the past 2 years. It took 235 yrs to reach 10 trillion debt. Go fig.

It may take the destruction of billions of tv sets to solve this catastrophic problem and revamp the system with free analogue tv again. FCC Govt control has to end.


Take to the streets. Its We The People not We The Government. You are being gang banged from all sides.

Posted by: gene green | May 18, 2011 7:45:55 AM

I neither like or hate Cam Newton, but since he's a panther now I hope he turns into a hall of fame caliber QB for the panthers. But here a thought in line with the way most of feel. how many NFL games has Andrew Luck played, how many play-off games has he won. I know he has at least one super bowl ring because everybody says he WILL BE the best QB this century. Or does everyone just believe whatever these "gurus" tell them. I didn't know about either one until we ended up with the first pick in the draft. Only thing I do know is that out of the whole Auburn CHAMPIONSHIP team only three players were drafted. Newton, Fairley and an OL in the seventh round. Got to say a little something for Newton.

Posted by: US Consumer | May 18, 2011 9:57:42 AM

Kiss the 2011-12 football season goodbye...

Posted by: JB | May 18, 2011 12:49:19 PM

Marty Hurney and Don Gregory have set this team back light years. Scam Newton will be another one of their typical BUSTS!

FIRE Marty Hurney and Don Gregory and the Panther's may have a chance to succeed in the near future!

Posted by: dave | May 18, 2011 2:11:36 PM

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