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May 14, 2011

Dorsey's work with Newton key

There was a lot of talk last week about whether Brett Favre would be willing to work with Cam Newton, who already has a long list of mentors.

Favre and Newton share the same agent in Bus Cook. When the idea of Favre mentoring Newton was first floated by former Panthers defensive tackle Brentson Buckner last week in a story in USA Today, Cook said Favre would be up for it.

It certainly wouldn't hurt Newton to spend a few days listening to what Favre has to say about reading defenses, preparing for an opponent -- even balancing the off-field demands such as media obligations and marketing opportunities without sacrificing his on-field performance.

But isn't this the same guy who never warmed to the idea of mentoring a young Aaron Rodgers after the Packers drafted Rodgers out of Cal?

Granted, the situation with Newton would be different because the former Auburn QB and 2010 Heisman Trophy winner would not be trying to take Favre's job (Favre insists his retirement this time will stick).

But Newton already has been receiving advice from former NFL greats Deion Sanders and Warren Moon.

And since the Panthers drafted him No. 1 overall, Newton has been working at the IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla., with former NFL quarterbacks Chris Weinke and Ken Dorsey.

While Weinke and Dorsey did not have near the level of success as Moon in the NFL, both have a lot they can teach Newton. Weinke, of course, played for the Panthers for four seasons and knows plenty about Charlotte and the Panthers' organization.

But Dorsey figures to be even more helpful, having played for Panthers offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski at Miami from 2000-2003.

While in New Orleans on Friday to accept the Manning Award, Newton told reporters he's been putting in 12-hour days at the IMG campus to try to offset the time he's missing at Bank of America Stadium because of the lockout.

Newton has a copy of the Panthers' playbook. He has a coach in Dorsey who is familiar with the formations and calls in that playbook.

He has, whether Favre works with him or not, an able group of mentors.

--Joseph Person

 

Posted by Observer Sports on May 14, 2011 at 08:18 AM | Permalink

Comments

great to hear!! you go Cam

Posted by: mat | May 14, 2011 9:32:44 AM

I have very mixed feelings on Farve mentoring Newton. Farve wasn't exactly a technically sound QB and his last pass attempt for every team(green bay - playoffs vs seahawks in OT, Jets - week 17, Vikes - conf champ) was an interception.

I'm happy Cam has someone familar with Chud's offense. I want Cam to get on the field with other Panther players like Gettis, Lafell, Shockey, Smith, Barnidge, AE

Posted by: Mitch | May 14, 2011 9:33:43 AM

The fact that Cam is working vigorously to transition from shotgun to under center QB is very encouraging. Perhaps all will not be lost during the lockout!
I suspect Cam will be the starting QB by at least game #3, if not the opening of the season.

Posted by: SC Ken | May 14, 2011 9:51:35 AM

I heard Gil Brandt on NFL radio say that the league threatened to fine the team between a 1 and1.5 million if Cam worked with Dorsey. I don't know if it's true, but wanted to see if anyone else heard that too.

Posted by: Phillip | May 14, 2011 10:45:36 AM

I agree with what Archie Manning said about Cam. He has the ability and the work ethic to be great. Its just a matter of how long it will take him to get there. You are only as good as the team thats around you. So this team will have to play at the level we all know they are capable of. If they do that then the Cam transition can be very smooth.

Posted by: C_Boss | May 14, 2011 10:46:16 AM

The best hire the Panthers made was
MIKE SHULA

...this guy can coach up quarterbacks....Cam has a better chance with this guy in our corner!

Posted by: Scott Silverstein | May 14, 2011 11:44:19 AM

Philip, I listen to NFL Radio a lot and didn't hear that. It doesn't make sense for the NFL to fine the Panthers for Cam working with an independent person. He's not on our staff so it shouldn't matter.

I'm stoked to read that he's working to learn the formations and calls. He's already doing what a lot of people thought he wouldn't...work.

Posted by: Jon | May 14, 2011 2:29:01 PM

Good for him that he is already putting in a lot of work! The guy knows whats at stake--he may be cocky, but I don't think he's stupid. As well, it doesn't hurt having guys like Warren Moon and Deoin Sanders staying in his ear!

Posted by: Demisfit2000 | May 14, 2011 3:40:19 PM

This is getting silly. Cam Newton needs the RIGHT mentor, not a talented-ex-quarterback seeking one last gasp of the spotlight, nor does he need a battery of coach-want-to-bes. He needs someone who will coach to his talents. That doesn't mean he doesn't need to learn classic quarterback play. But let's face it, the days of the strong-armed statue standing in the pocket firing missiles is over. A quarter back has to be able to fire missles and make plays. Cam is capable of that. Please don't set him up to fail by narrowing his options to make him like someone else. Let him be him...THAT will work.

Posted by: Cliff | May 14, 2011 8:12:12 PM

having a hard time seeing someone work this hard being a bust!eat shit and die cam haters!

Posted by: joe cool | May 14, 2011 8:54:08 PM

Yes, god knows that Newton need the help of Ken Dorsey! Wait, you don't remember how good he looked in minicamps and preseason action before he flamed out of the league...as a Cleveland Brown? Yeah, great mentor. Too bad we don't have a certain quarterback who helped guide Colt McCoy to one of the better rookie QB seasons last year:

"Jake is the classiest guy on this team and in this organization," said McCoy. "Jake's the best. We're really close. I wouldn't be playing as well as I am now without Jake. That's who he is."

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 15, 2011 1:29:28 AM

Procton, to say that someone can't be a good teacher and mentor just because they weren't a great player is asinine. Most NFL coaches are former players who weren't good enough to play in the pros, or had very brief careers.

Posted by: Jerad | May 15, 2011 1:44:55 AM

The haters know their hero Scam the Spam will fail badly in the NFL and all the hype by the local rag is laughable and totally meaningless as usual.

You must be an exceptional accurate passer as QB in the NFL because those who try to run and dont slide feet first will be carted into the ambulance with a broken neck.

Better say your prayers for this one if he thinks can run because he sure as hell cant pass. He'll be picked like a Georgia cotten field. CFL here we come.

Posted by: Amour Spam | May 15, 2011 8:03:16 AM

Procton, your teacher at Burger King burger flipping 101 was okay, that is why you are the best.

Posted by: david | May 15, 2011 10:22:59 AM

Former BUST's tutoring a future BUST how interesting...Weinke/Dorsey lol...Cam will bust and the "dual threat QB" will be done in the NFL for a LONG time..He's not accurate and only 4.6 spd? can't throw and can't out-run anybody...Vick had RB quickness and 4.3 WR spd. This team needs new ownership and FO personel that won't be sucker's for "used car salesmen" type pitches on players that the draft experts were not sold on..."Oh he can run and pass WOW!"...Pick a real QB next year smf's!

Posted by: Soulja Boi | May 15, 2011 10:37:51 AM

Oh well if Colt McCoy said it, then it must be accurate. Seriously?

Posted by: Fatty McButterpants | May 15, 2011 11:03:53 AM

For the record the QC has long held the distinction as the number one Armour Spam consumers on earth.


Posted by: georgetown | May 15, 2011 11:40:24 AM

"He's not accurate and only 4.6 spd? can't throw and can't out-run anybody...Vick had RB quickness and 4.3 WR spd." I bet you cant set up a timer and tap your finger within the time difference of 4.3 and 4.6

Posted by: Know It All | May 15, 2011 12:06:07 PM

@Know it all ,that's 3 full strides running a 40 you smf...EVERY LB in the NFL runs 4.6 + most 4/3 DE's!..Cam is NOT Vick quick/fast and yo and him will learn that VERY fast! = BUST!

Posted by: Soulja Boi | May 15, 2011 12:21:06 PM

Well let's hope that newton is actually putting in all this work he says he is. Saying your putting in the work and actually doing it are two different things. For now I will take his word for it. Time will tell if he was truthful or not. When and if the season gets going and he steps onto the field we will be able see if he really put in the time or if he was blowing smoke up are a@#!

Posted by: mike | May 15, 2011 4:54:45 PM

Who would have thought that Ken Dorsey would be Newton's mentor. I think that he might do a better job than Favre would have.

Posted by: Jon L. | May 15, 2011 6:37:31 PM

Ken Dorsey is one of the 3 or 4 greatest quarterbacks in the history of college football. True, his lack of NFL arm strength and bad luck to play on some horrible 49ers and Browns teams did not equal pro success, but he is a brilliant mind and a born leader who will someday be an outstanding college or pro coach. Dorsey also learned Chud's NFL playbook during his stint with the Browns. Cam is in some very good hands; let's hope he is motivated and a fast learner.

Posted by: U Fan | May 15, 2011 9:10:25 PM

I hope they let the best quarterback start, and not just give it to Cam. If Cam is the best, then start him. If Moore or Clausen is the best, then one of them should start. They say it's a open quarterback competition, but you know that's B.S.
Moore never really got a fair shot behind Jake. Moore finally got a shot, and played well when Jake started playing poorly. The Panthers show confidence in Moore with the new contract, but then say nevermind, by drafting Clausen. Moore had to be thinking WTF? So there goes Moore's self-confidence out the window. Clausen steps in, and has a poor rookie season with the worst offensive play calling coaching staff ever. Way to throw your quarterbacks under the bus and never give them a real chance. Here's to drafting a quaterback three years in a row. Don't call it reaching, or anything.

Posted by: Panther Fan | May 15, 2011 9:18:23 PM

get McNabb in carolina. perfect qb to teach newton b.c of their similar skills and physical tools..let newton learn for 2 years n you would make steve smith retire a panther.

Posted by: Dave | May 15, 2011 10:45:52 PM

get McNabb in carolina. perfect qb to teach newton b.c of their similar skills and physical tools..let newton learn for 2 years n you would make steve smith retire a panther.

Posted by: Dave | May 15, 2011 10:45:52 PM

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