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June 26, 2011

The list: Free agent QBs

In Sunday's editions, the Observer examined the five biggest priorities facing the Panthers after the lockout ends.

One of the items on the to-do list: Bringing in a veteran quarterback, something both Marty Hurney and Ron Rivera have indicated the team plans to seriously consider.

The Panthers didn't draft Cam Newton No. 1 to sit him for very long. But given the fact that Newton will head into his first training camp without the benefit of minicamps or OTAs -- at least not any run by his coaches -- finding an experienced QB who can learn Rob Chudzinski's system quickly while serving as a bridge to Newton seems a sensible approach.

Here's the list (courtesy of ESPN) of quarterbacks expected to be unrestricted free agents under the terms of the proposed CBA (players with four accrued years or more):

Six-plus seasons: Marc Bulger, Kerry Collins, Rex Grossman, Matt Hasselbeck, Chad Pennington, Patrick Ramsey, Alex Smith, Billy Volek.

Four or five seasons: Kellen Clemens, Brodie Croyle, Trent Edwards, Bruce Gradkowski, Tarvaris Jackson, Matt Leinart, Matt Moore, Troy Smith, Tyler Thigpen.

If he doesn't re-sign with Seattle, Hasselbeck will want to go somewhere he can start for several seasons. So he's not a fit.

And cross Pennington off the list: The former Jets and Dolphins QB will take 2011 off while working as an analyst for Fox and recovering from a knee injury.

Bulger's past success with the Rams -- and reports he'd like to stay on the East Coast and does not have to be a full-time starter -- make him an intriguing possibility.

Volek is familiar with Rivera and Chudzinski after playing the past four seasons in San Diego. But the 35-year-old attempted only 44 passes during those four seasons.

There has been local support for former Panthers Collins and Jake Delhomme, expected to be released by Cleveland after the lockout. But a Panthers official called Collins and Delhomme longshots to return to Charlotte.

Rivera recently mentioned Moore as a candidate. Moore, recovering from shoulder surgery in the fall, has performed best for the Panthers when the expectations weren't squarely on him.

Put yourself in Hurney's shoes: Who do you go after?

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on June 26, 2011 at 12:06 AM | Permalink


Letting Collins end his career where it started as a disaster would be good to see.

Posted by: Phil | Jun 26, 2011 12:47:42 AM

Out of this group? I would be interested to see what Marc Bulger has left. If not him, I'd probably go with Matt Moore.

Posted by: PoppaDaddy | Jun 26, 2011 1:22:16 AM

Mark Bulger was a really good QB back in the day and I believe he still has something left in the tank. However, it would be nice to see what Matt Moore could do with a healthy O-line in front of him. The only other guy to consider would be Volek but it's highly unlikely. He's familiar with Chud's offense and that's his only upside.

Posted by: William | Jun 26, 2011 1:36:53 AM

"the five biggest priorities facing the Panthers after the lockout ends" You mean after they finish raping America for more billions and while told to stay mum while doing it like the criminals they are? Are they worth it? NFL union thugs and punks are completely worthless to society as whole. Go back to the streets gangin and slangin where you belong. Stay out of the strip joints. GQs article on Newton in stripes must be unaware felons now wear orange jump suits at the county jail.

Posted by: italian stallion | Jun 26, 2011 7:18:59 AM

How often does bringing in an unwanted past their prime, or never reached it, veteran QB payoff? Remember when we brought in Testaverde, what was the upside to that 7-9 season?

I think Cam will start the whole year. I don't see a better QB on your list, and I don't think Newton will settle for a back-up role. He has already asserted himself as a team leader by doing things I have never seen a rookie QB do.

Posted by: Sportsdon | Jun 26, 2011 7:36:29 AM

"He has already asserted himself as a team leader by doing things I have never seen a rookie QB do"

Where does this mentality come from?

1)Cheating 3 times getting kicked out of UFlorida causing coach Meyer to resign?

2)Stealing a students laptop and getting caught a felony in FL?

3)Getting caught soliciting accepting 200,000 in payola from Auburn before dropping out?

He has def done things no other rookie NFL QB has ever been seen doing but calling it leadership is a stetch. Then again many fans are ethically challenged and grew up in a moral sewer...

Posted by: bj | Jun 26, 2011 8:46:45 AM

We're going to need 4 QBs on the roster this year, since two of them will be Newton and Clausen. Keep Moore and sign Bulger.

Posted by: Authority | Jun 26, 2011 9:01:55 AM

Go get Gradkowski.. The kids a winner, and smart..

Posted by: Jon | Jun 26, 2011 10:42:03 AM

Mcnabb??? He wont be in DC next year I dont think. He went through the same transitions coming into the league that Newton has to go through. Makes sense to me...

Posted by: E | Jun 26, 2011 10:58:30 AM

Why can't we get Hasselbach and let Clausen or Scam Newton develop. Best way to ensure a rookie qb is a failure is to throw him to the wolves and start him in front of a lousy team. Hasselbach will let us have some good seasons now and let our future qbs develop. Other teams like the Patriots get this and are always good. Of course we could just try and be like Detriot Lions or Oakland and just draft star college qbs and give them no time to develop so they become flops and the team sucks year after year.

Posted by: Scott | Jun 26, 2011 11:12:32 AM

Posted by: Sportsdon | Jun 26, 2011 7:36:29 AM

Where does this mentality come from?

1)Cheating 3 times getting kicked out of UFlorida causing coach Meyer to resign?

2)Stealing a students laptop and getting caught a felony in FL?

3)Getting caught soliciting accepting 200,000 in payola from Auburn before dropping out?

I've never seen a post with so many facts wrong.

Cam did not get kicked out of Florida.


And to think this was the reason Urban Meyer resigned is hilarious. Meyer resigned two years later for health reasons.

Cam bought a stolen laptop but the charges were dropped for lack of evidence and a pre-trial program.

Cam never received money to play at Auburn.
Neither His father supposedly solicited money from Miss. St. but that has yet to be proven. The NCAA cleared both Cam and Auburn in Dec.


Not sure if you're in denial or you have your head buried in the sand. But either way these are the facts.

Posted by: Thomas | Jun 26, 2011 11:31:17 AM

Facts? When the Hell did facts ever stand in the way? Ever hear of the old adage, "where there's smoke, there's a fire"? Scam Newton has had numerous rumors and inuendo surrounding him since high school. I seem to remember the same type of comments like yours "innocent till proven guilty" or "you're just a bunch of haters" comments about a QB named Michael Vick.
I'm not saying that Scam Newton will wind up fighting dogs but if your think he's innocent as the driven snow, you're the one who needs to get his head out of the sand, or rectum as the case may be.

Posted by: charles heath | Jun 26, 2011 12:05:55 PM

The Front office better bring a QB in ,because they sure can't pick one ,I can't wait untill "I told you so's" dominate the boards over Newton.

Posted by: TWIGGY | Jun 26, 2011 12:37:40 PM

@TWIGGY ,you better include head coach's with the"can't pick list" there's a reason Rivera never got a head coaching gig before ,and Carolina will find out...Fill out a add in this paper saying: WANTED "A NFL ownership group that knows NFL football"...NOT breakfast and burgers!

Posted by: QB | Jun 26, 2011 12:42:01 PM

I hate you all!

Posted by: Reginald Spicyweiner | Jun 26, 2011 12:48:22 PM

So Newton quit the top NCAA football school in America playing behind Tebow to go to some community college and play with rejects?

Meyer recruited Newton and resigned because he was to deep in the scandal and couldnt get hired as NFL coach otherwise.

Student records are private by law and cant be released. CBS is clueless. He was caught stealing laptops and cheating mutiple times and dismissed from UF permanently.

His protectors show how ignorant and uneducated they are.

Urban Meyer Resigns: Florida Football Coach who recruited 2nd string QB Newton stepping Down over academic scandal ...
Dec 08, 2010 · Many feel Urban Meyer quit over Cameron Newton ...



Posted by: ron | Jun 26, 2011 12:56:13 PM

WANTED a NFL ownership group that knows football and not breakfast and burgers" LOL! so true! I get so sick of hearing "Signing free agents is not their style" Well THE PANTHERS STYLE! Has gotten them 4 playoff seasons! in going on 17 years!!!!!! WTF..does it take to realize Your approach is not working!! This franchise may be doomed until Jerry Richardson is at some asst. living facility...as that's what it will take to get our JOKE! of a GM! back to managing ticket sales! (like he did in sandiego)......the front office of the panthers....is such! a joke to me...as for this Jake Delhome idea..iF they want him as a mentor that bad then hire him as a QB COACH! ppl seem to forget the primary!! responsibility of vet. back up qb will potentially be to actually "PLAY" if newton isn't ready or turns a ankle..etc. and at no point! can anyway debate with me that jake delhome is capable of "playing" in the nfl anymore...(set aside your nostalgic non objective assessment..of him) so if you want him to mentor..fine..sign him as a qb coach...(which begs me the question whats the purpose of the current QB coach) several of those other options...as bk up QB are twice as good. I honest to god would rather have Steve Beaurline! as a back up right now than jake...(I think as old and away from the game as he is..he would be a better option than jake whom currently is the most turn over pron-ed player in the nfl! (when he's playing) and that's a fact!

Posted by: Cheven | Jun 26, 2011 4:23:14 PM

complete morons,half of you guys don't even cheer for the panthers or the organization, so why do you care, hmmm. i can think of many reasons..#1 draft pick, sound like one of them, new minority coach..hmmm..#2..i will stop there....

Posted by: teemac1974 | Jun 26, 2011 6:24:38 PM

... the boogie man gonna get u ... look out for little green men & flying pigs too ..

btw ... if it matters, rivera is white caucasoid latino of european heritage from spain who hailed from cuba & puerto rican spanish colonies at one time.

go take a history lesson ... that 5th grade diploma is lacking.

Posted by: miguel | Jun 26, 2011 8:51:16 PM

Can anyone say Brett Favre? He has a short time left in him and you gotta admit that he knows how.

Posted by: Wayne4304 | Jun 26, 2011 9:03:13 PM

"Other teams like the Patriots get this and are always good."

The Pats got lucky with a 6th round choice and weren't going to play him until Bledsoe got hurt so basically that was pure luck. Also Big Ben, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Peyton Manning, and Sam Bradford are some names of the qb's that have failed (sarcasm)because they were thrown to the wolves...

and no all those teams had losing records so it's not like the situation they went into was great.

Posted by: cchsol68 | Jun 26, 2011 9:33:03 PM

nasty posters here

Posted by: Moneyman | Jun 26, 2011 9:59:18 PM

Don't really mind nasty, it's the illiteracy that I find the most disturbing.

Posted by: BarelyCareAnymore | Jun 26, 2011 10:04:05 PM

Hooked on Phonics worked for me!

Posted by: crunchy | Jun 26, 2011 11:26:18 PM

What in the world can Moore teach a young QB? How to fold like a cheap suit under pressure? Moore doesn't have the success or experience to truly mentor a young QB. I would rather have Collins or Delhomme than Moore. Collins has some true lessons learned the hard way and success in the league to mentor Cam and Jimmy.

Posted by: stickyd | Jun 27, 2011 8:30:04 AM

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