November 07, 2011
Ron Rivera says Panthers not getting calls
As the Panthers prepare for the second half of the season, Ron Rivera wants his team to cut down on its penalties.
The Panthers are fourth in the league in both penalties (65) and penalty yardage (560). The Oakland Raiders, always among the NFL's most-penalized teams, are the runaway leaders. The Raiders have been penalized 84 times for 730 yards.
Rivera said he feels being a rookie coach at times puts him at a disadvantage with officials.
“I do feel that as a first-year coach, you're not getting the calls you would like to be balanced out. That's just kind of the way it is,” Rivera said Monday. “We'll go through it and as we become a team where people tend to pay a little more attention to us and respect what we do, hopefully we'll get some breaks.”
Rivera, who played in the league nine years and was an assistant for 14 seasons, said he's always felt there's been a discrepancy in the officiating of games involving established coaches.
“That doesn't mean I'm right,” Rivera said. “I do think that sometimes certain things happen, certain coaches do get a little bit more towards their way.”
Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey, in his 10th season, said he's seen some calls this year he's never seen before, including the two offensive pass interference calls that went against him the first half of the season.
Posted by Observer Sports on November 7, 2011 at 03:07 PM | Permalink
No coach you are right! The guy covering Shockey hit him both times and fell over! The holding call on Steve Smith? Coach is going to have to go off on the ref's and take respect! The money he gets fined will be worth it!
Posted by: joe cool | Nov 7, 2011 3:34:07 PM
I agree, there have been many phantom calls this year. Some have been game changers.
Posted by: Beasty | Nov 7, 2011 3:35:18 PM
Shockey needs to keep his hands in period!
Posted by: Yackletoast | Nov 7, 2011 3:36:44 PM
Wow...worst excuse for an excuse I've ever seen. Maybe the first-year coach should do a better job of instilling some discipline in his players rather than whining about some vendetta on the part of the officials.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Nov 7, 2011 3:50:22 PM
Well, maybe instead of b**ching to the media about it Rivera could point out the bad calls to the refs? The guy just stands there looking like a deer in headlights for 4 quarters then complains afterwards. Some guys are life long assistants for a reason and I think we are seeing that now...
Posted by: Ron | Nov 7, 2011 3:51:09 PM
I don't think he's using this as an excuse for anything. It's not like it's not right there in front of all our faces! Even the game announcers are baffled at some of the calls this year against us. But I don't think I've heard Rivera use the officiating as an excuse. He's always quick to point out that we didn't get it done in certain area's of the game, etc. But honestly, you would have to be a blind man not to see the discrepancies in some of these games. And while the Panthers have given up a play or two here or there, some of the calls have been game changing, period!
Posted by: Mike | Nov 7, 2011 4:12:37 PM
Calls will not go the Panthers way until they start winning...period. Also, take the black and blue colored lenses off for a moment with Cam. He has done well, beyond the wildest dreams for some and squashed some of his harshest critics. However, until he starts winning games for this team, he will not get the same calls that some of the other QBs will get. He's arrived to the NFL, but he's not considered an "insider" just yet for certain calls and he may never be.
Bur for the most part, a team like the Panthers (rookie coach, upcoming QB and a losing team) will not get the calls.
Posted by: Tvan | Nov 7, 2011 4:30:15 PM
OMG. What a whiner and bunch of babies making excuses.
Whats next? Players not paid enough?
Posted by: ron | Nov 7, 2011 4:33:52 PM
losers always make excuses.
Posted by: newton | Nov 7, 2011 5:33:38 PM
Penalties have hurt the Panthers in nearly every loss this season and some have been baffling, i.e., the calls against Smitty at the end of the Vikings game and the interference calls against Shockey. I don't recall who those were against, but I remember one waived off a go-ahead touchdown in a game we lost, I believe, by less than 7 points.
There were also a couple of holding calls in a couple of fourth quarter possessions against Atlanta that stalled potential drives and led to Falcons points after we entered the final period with a 17-14 lead and had been moving the ball well all game. Then again, Cam tossed three picks in that game. The last one didn't really matter, but the first was on a tipped pass that likely would've been a Smitty touchdown going into the break and the other led to a fourth quarter touchdown that put Atlanta up by 2 scores.
There's a lot to work on the rest of the season, though penalties may be the difference b/t the 13-3 "Cardiac Cats" who won every close game a few years ago and this year's version which has lost nearly every close one in the first 8 games.
Posted by: Jimmy Grappone | Nov 7, 2011 6:59:34 PM
Is that the real Michael Procton making those idiot comments? He use to make rational arguments but here lately they have been irrational and just down right stupid.
Posted by: leonard | Nov 7, 2011 8:38:45 PM
Am I missing somethibg here, are you saying there are two rule books for the NFL, one for winning teams and another one for teams that lose. So the mindset is; they are loosers anyway so we will make sure they stay there.
Posted by: Fabfan | Nov 7, 2011 8:44:51 PM
Any college basketball fan from this area knows that the established teams get the close calls. What may be called a foul on Wake forest or N C State or Charlotte may not be a foul on Duke or UNC. Duke fans see it when UNC plays. UNC fans see it when Duke plays. Everybody else sees it all the time. I think it's subconscious with the officials. They choke like anybody else.
Totally agree that Rivera is too passive with the refs on the sideline. Give'em hell and maybe they won't be so likely to blow a call.
There were two pass interference calls early in the season that were just plain wrong and cost the Panthers the lead in both cases.
Posted by: Ben | Nov 7, 2011 9:52:55 PM
When you combine a new coaching staff with a rookie QB, and add some new pieces to the mix without an entire training camp you get a very undisciplined football team.
Posted by: Jason Warren | Nov 7, 2011 10:30:55 PM
Several times this year, the Panthers have had the ball inside the 10 or even 5 yard line and ended up with a penalty that put them back at the 12 or 15 yard line, and they ended up with a field goal instead of a TD...they got to stop that.
The interference calls on Shockey are BS. Did you see the Ravens-Steelers game last night???? The winning TD, the Ravens reciever got all his separation from pushing off...I dont care about that but Shockey barely touches a guy and other guys get to push off mightily and get away with it...Refs dont like Shockey.
Sports Illustrated had an article last year on why home teams win most games...wasnt home field, home crowd...turns out officiating most of the time favors the home team...of course that doesnt explain why Panthers lost some of their home games.
Posted by: Jake McFootball | Nov 7, 2011 11:01:13 PM
Unless Rivera plans to start all pro Anderson in 2012 and hes not fired for another 2-14 season after his overhyped shister TE playing out of position at QB heads to the Bears to be with Peppers he better be hoping Miami loses a few more to get another #1 draft pick and a real QB out of Stanford.
The bottom feeder Colts will still have Manning at QB with his 2 neck surgeries even though the union has late him a 100 times trying to permanently injure him as they did Delhomne, Gabbert, Palmer, Dalton, Eli Manning, Palmer and other select QBs they want out of the game who all have something in common but just cant put a finger on it. Call it a union within a union.
Andrew Luck will be a big target for injury next year should the CP get lucky. Rivera better pray for 8 more straight close losses to get the #1 draft pick and Luck to replace the scambug who is officially headed to Chicago.
Posted by: cbs sports | Nov 8, 2011 6:38:24 AM
Its good on another note en though it will destroy Patero they finally got up with the Sandusky sicko and got him out of PSU after 40 yrs with his pedo perv h2oboy ways hanging around showers & locker rooms their whole lives like stray animals looking for their next snack. All programs need to do the same on all levels inc high school & youth of course. These pervs should all be in jail.
Posted by: croctonite | Nov 8, 2011 8:55:23 AM
Somebody is posting under procton's name, however the blue highlighted procton is Procton.
Coach Rivera you need to accept these penalties and coach discipline at all costs. Penalties are not going to get better.
Anyone who has lived here for any length of time knows how in this small market(Charlotte), the only time games(Basketball/Football) are called straight is if we are playing another small market team and then it's "a wait and see".
Everytime we get in the "Red Zone" I cringe. Because you know it's coming illegal formation, holding etc.. Something that could be called on any play. I don't think they try and stop us ,but let's make it difficult.
Posted by: 10-4!! | Nov 8, 2011 10:05:58 AM
Oh just shut up whining Rivera and get a grip. You make people sick with that mess. Take your gripes up if you truly have any with the NFL REFEREE ASSOCIATION UNION and see how far you will get with that.
They invented instant replay review just for babies like you.
If the truth were known, refs are going easy on you and that new qb who gets away with a lot. Ever notice his illegal procedures before every play when he shakes and quivers and jerks with his feet? Maybe we will start calling that not to mention his illegal recievers downfield with the 2 TEs and tendancy to pass after he steps over the LOS? We also need to call penalties on his taunting and excessive celebration. He also likes to use intentional grounding in the pocket we dont call yet. Both TEs hold on every single play we dont call either.
ps And stop flying that make believe airplane ... This is not kindergarten.
Posted by: NFLRAU | Nov 8, 2011 10:38:01 AM
Joe Cool has it right. The call on Smitty was terrible. No way should a ref determine the outcome of a game like that. Rivera needs to light into the refs like a Christmas Tree. Let it be known that they will get an ear full over bogus B.S. calls that cost a team a "W". Tvan if you take two calls that seem to be phantom calls away Carolina is 4-4. So yes, winning helps but Phantom calls have prevent two "W" for Carolina
Posted by: davethepanther | Nov 9, 2011 7:21:43 AM
I recall a game with Atlanta some years back and our team was getting ref calls every second and then Jake throws a ball to Smitty and Smitty is running top speed not looking except up where the ball is coming and runs smack over a ref and almost knocked him out. Guess what that was the end of all those ref calls and we finally had a ball game.
Rivera needs to fight back with these calls.
Posted by: Jim | Nov 9, 2011 9:03:35 AM
I have been saying these same things since the first few games. There are a lot of people out there supporting us, but on the flip side there are always haters. Everyone has the negative chums that love to see you fail. So with that said in a country that's racist and discriminant as hell, you really think they going to give one of the youngest franchises with a Black QB who millions wanted to fail and a Spanish HC a fair shake?
Posted by: T-Mac | Nov 11, 2011 11:56:13 AM
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