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March 13, 2012

Free agent OL Jason Brown meeting with Panthers

Who knew offenisve guard would be such a hot position for the Carolina Panthers during the first 24 hours of free agency?

In one fell swoop Tuesday, the Panthers cut veteran guard Travelle Wharton and re-signed veteran guard Geoff Hangartner. Now, the Panthers will host free agent guard Jason Brown for a visit Wednesday, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.

Brown, 28, was cut by St. Louis this week -- just three years after the Rams made him the league's highest-paid center (a title now held by the Panthers' Ryan Kalil) with a five-year, $35.2 million contract in 2009.

Brown lost his starting spot at center midway through last season and moved to guard. By cutting Brown, the Rams saved a reported $2.8 million in cap space.

The Panthers cleared $3.8 million in cap space by releasing Wharton, 30, whose 99 career starts are the second-most by a Carolina offensive lineman behind Jordan Gross.

Brown, who is only two years younger than Wharton, has a background with Panthers offensive line coach John Matsko, his position coach for a year in Baltimore. Brown, who grew up in Henderson, N.C., was a fourth-round pick of the Ravens in 2005 after playing at UNC.

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on March 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM | Permalink


Remain calm! Wharton can be replaced! Remain calm! All is well! Lot of crying over an average player!

Posted by: joe cool | Mar 13, 2012 11:33:56 PM

An'it crying about him sonny. Its the big hole at CB that I'm worried about.

Posted by: PantherJon | Mar 14, 2012 12:02:55 AM

nice, we are filling holes that are not there and the cb's and wr's are already getting gone in free agency

Posted by: Mr. Dabe Flelour, Sr. | Mar 14, 2012 12:51:51 AM

@Mr. Dabe Flelour - And why do the Panthers need to over spend on a WR, when they need the cap space for other holes.. Smith, Gettis, LaFell,,are fine in this offense, with Olsen.. with CB, I 100% agree.. but Finnigen(sp) and Rogers were way over paid.. Draft is a better place to look for CB. If Claibourne(sp) falls to 9th, he would be perfect fit..Rams now won't be looking for him, since they just spent millions on Finnigen(sp)..

Posted by: Catsnmbr1Fan | Mar 14, 2012 1:22:02 AM

If Claiborne falls to 9th he would be a perfect fit? Yes. And if we could draft Ed Reed from 1999 at Safety HE would be a perfect fit. Claiborne won't fall, assuming he would is the NFL informed equivalent of believing in Santa or the Tooth Fairy. No, we don't NEED Jason Brown, in fact cap wise it wouldn't be a great move. Brandon Carr is still a FA he would be a good fit. And People are going to HATE this...but we overpaid for Charles "Big Money" Johnson. And I think he's a great player but is getting paid Julius Peppers/Mario Williams money without the talent. If we could SOMEHOW rework his deal and give a blockbuster deal to Mario Williams. THAT would propel us into Superbowl contenders. But that is only slightly more likely than Claiborne falling.

Posted by: Charles | Mar 14, 2012 2:09:42 AM

Chris Gamble's pay cut? HELLO? When your statistics drop dramatically, you take a pay cut. Before the FAT CONTRACT, Gamble averaged 71 tackles per season; After the big money, Gamble only averages 46 tackles per game.
As for INT's, Gamble has 7 INT's in the last 3 years, as compared to 20 INT's BEFORE he got paid.

Pay Cut to $2.5 Million for Gamble

Posted by: Bill Polian | Mar 14, 2012 2:17:21 AM

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Posted by: Moncler sale | Mar 14, 2012 6:56:24 AM

Teams did not throw toward Gamble because of the glaring holes at the other CB positions. He shut down most of the WR1s. I think he got bored of playing Foxy ball.

Posted by: Nosebleed Fan | Mar 14, 2012 7:17:32 AM

Foxy ball?! Sounds like fun. Do we get to chase foxes around with soocer balls? No wait, I know I know we get to play catch with foxes! Huh.... how do them foxes catch? Wait, I've got me a better idea. I'll just get these foxes to run with the ball and not do any of that passin' and catchin' stuff. I can't wait! Foxy ball!!!

Posted by: John Fox | Mar 14, 2012 8:29:05 AM

I know Jason Brown's got a fan in the O-line coach, but I would be very wary of signing this guy. I live in STL and saw almost every game he played in. Brown was signed as a FA to a big contract, but he regressed from previous performance and stunk it up big time, under 2 different coaches. His move to guard didn't work out any better, which is why he was benched last year. A local former Ram's lineman said he was ticked at this guy, because "..he has everything physically, but something happened in his head or his heart cause he seemed to give up after getting the big money". Maybe a change of scenery will help, but as a Panthers fan I do not want him for large $$$.

Posted by: Bassman | Mar 14, 2012 8:46:37 AM

Chris Gamble couldn't shut down your mom. Chris Gamble got BURNED in games. He's still looking for his jock strap in the game against the Falcons. Chris Gamble can't tackle, he's afraid to hit anyone, he doesn't help anyone else out, he doesn't recognize a running play and come up to the line of scrimmage to make the tackle, he arm tackles, he doesn't hit hard enough to create turnovers, and he doesn't intercept the ball anymore.
IF the Panthers EVER get a bona fide #1 CB, Chris Gamble will be exposed by QB's for the POSER he is. Chris Gamble will get lit up like a Christmas tree.
That is why you lower Chris Gamble's cap number, or you cut him loose.

Posted by: Bill Polian | Mar 14, 2012 8:49:03 AM

I am not a Bill Polian fan, however he once said one thing that I agree with, "this is not a static league, if you are not getting better, you are getting worse."

As we sit here today we are not as good of a football as we were yesterday. Wharton was a very good LG. The prospects of Gary Williams protecting Cam scare me. Hurney likes to say that he builds through the draft. That is a great idea if you draft well enough to do that, he does not. Let's not forget that this guy is a newspaper reporter. He has no more of a clue how to assemble a team than I do. His teams are 84-84 over his tenure, making the playoffs just 3 times.

Are we going to do nothing to improve a defense that couldn't stop a running back at all, a defense that can't rush the passer, or break up a pass play? We are going to count on players coming possible career ending injuries. Does Ron Edwards improve the DT position that much? We still have one corner (play that say Gamble sucks have no idea what they are talking about), and not a single safety that can play. Why in the world did Hurney give that contract to Godfrey? Who was he bidding against? What had he done to deserve such a contract, cheer a tackle 35 yards down the field?

This team is headed for another 7-9 season with no playoffs. At what point do we dump Hurney? The man is teflon. Why did he not take any blame for the 2-14 disaster?

Posted by: Steven | Mar 14, 2012 9:44:37 AM

How do you expect to have credibility when you can't facilitate spell check?

Posted by: Happy2ride | Mar 14, 2012 10:51:21 AM

Now that we know Finnegan has gone to the Rams and the Bucs just signed Eric Wright. Who's to say that Claiborne could not fall to us? I don't see many teams before us left that might take him.

Posted by: Dean | Mar 14, 2012 11:12:42 AM

"Wharton was a very good LG"

Very good is being top 5-10 at your position which Wharton wasn't. He was decent at best who was overpaid. Brandon Carr is a #2 c at best, who will be paid #1 money. @ Bill Polian( your aren't real), have you ever thought the reason gamble isn't producing now to back then is that teams aren't throwing at him very much? Hmm not, tackles and ints doesn't define a cb idiot.

Posted by: lol | Mar 14, 2012 12:18:25 PM

Chris gamble can tackle remember when we played the packers he hit that guy so hard on the one yard line I thought he was done, but then he got up like nothing happend

Posted by: BriceMcnamara | Mar 14, 2012 12:29:04 PM

What are we doing in FA....absolutly nothing. Doesnt surprise me though. We are just sitting back and letting our rivals, the Bucs, get all the good people. If we want to win, we HAVE to beef up our defensive line or strengthen our corners somehow, maybe through the draft. I can rant and rave all I want, but when its all said and done, we have more losses than wins, which wont cut it in the NFL.

Posted by: nick | Mar 14, 2012 4:13:52 PM

nick-you sound like a fool.

Posted by: carpants | Mar 14, 2012 4:31:07 PM

Is anyone at the CO aware we have re-signed Derek Anderson? This is a surprise. I was under the assumption that every player we sign for the next 10 years has to have played for Rivera in Chicago or San Diego.

Posted by: J | Mar 14, 2012 5:01:48 PM

How yall gone let him got so dummm he waz a good player but cant wait till yall start loosin again yall gone be drinkin on that HATERADE when yall see him ballin on a new team

Posted by: zendaya | Mar 14, 2012 5:16:07 PM

zendaya - what are you babbling about?

Hey everyone - Baker is outta here. There may be hope for Hurney yet...

Posted by: J | Mar 14, 2012 5:37:14 PM

Panthers just released baker too

Posted by: panthers4life | Mar 14, 2012 5:42:21 PM

Jordan Gross start packing your bags! You can't let Cam take blind side shots when they can replace you with the first round pick and spend your money on a defensive free agent!

Posted by: joe cool | Mar 14, 2012 6:17:18 PM

Has Chris Gamble lowered his cap number yet? We need to sign a REAL CB and this Fool, 2nd CB needs to get his cap number down to $2.5 Million, Pronto!

He avoids tackling and contact like the Klan loves rap.

Posted by: Bill Polian | Mar 14, 2012 7:41:58 PM

What the fuck are u talking bout chris gamble makes more takles than the average cb check his stats before you talk shit..

Posted by: daniel | Mar 14, 2012 9:37:51 PM

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