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January 11, 2013

What does Cleveland offer Norv Turner that Carolina can't?

Question of the day: What does Cleveland offer Norv Turner than Carolina doesn't?

Answer: A job for his son as a position coach.

The coaching tree formed by Turner, Rob Chudzinski and Ron Rivera has been well documented. But one branch that has not been discussed much is Scott Turner, the bright, offensive-minded coach who – as the Panthers' offensive quality control coach – was Chudzinski's right-hand man in Charlotte.

Scott Turner sat next to Chudzinski in the coaches box during games, and had his ear. The younger Turner came up with the Legedu Naanee-to-Cam Newton pass against Tampa Bay in 2011.

Scott Turner was a backup quarterback at UNLV. That's the position he figures to coach in Cleveland.

The Panthers have a quarterbacks coach – a good one – in Mike Shula. Rivera could offer Turner the vacant receivers coach position and try to convince Norv to come in as OC.

But there are other factors at work here, too – namely stability. Rivera had to sweat out his future for a week before learning he would be retained.

And he's now working for a GM who didn't hire him.

Bottom line, it looks like father and son will wind up in Cleveland with Chud.

--Joseph Person


Posted by Observer Sports on January 11, 2013 at 10:54 AM | Permalink


Do you really think Norv wants to be the OC and watch Chud call the plays? That is a pretty passive role for a man of Norv's experience.

Posted by: mcgeex | Jan 11, 2013 11:38:52 AM

What McGeex said. Tell us again how the Panthers are CERTAIN to get rid of one of their running backs in the summer of 2012, Joe?

Posted by: Bull City Dog | Jan 11, 2013 11:47:53 AM

Chud just held his press conference and here is the quote on play-calling...

"Chudzinski, asked about who will call plays, said it will be determined. If he's comfortable with offensive coordinator doing it, that's how it will be handled; if not, he may have more of a role."

It sounds like he has figured out Norv isn't going to Cleveland to watch Chud call the plays. Chud's backing off his previous statements that he would call the plays is bad news for Rivera if he wanted to try to hire Norv.

Posted by: mcgeex | Jan 11, 2013 12:04:47 PM

The reason Norv goes to Cleveland is in 1-2 years when Haslam fires Chud, Norv ascends to HC and makes his son OC.

Posted by: KY | Jan 11, 2013 12:40:01 PM

If--as some have suggested--Mike Shula is offered Chud's old job as Offensive Co-ordinator, why not move Scott Turner up to QB position coach when Mike Shula moves out/

That would make a lot more sense than making Scott Turner (an ex-QB) into a WR coach and give Scott a solid coaching job in a position he knows.

And furthermore, I bet that Scott would rather have his own independent coaching position with a team that values him independently than depend for his status and employment on the influence (such as it may be) of dear old Dad.

So, there it is; problem solved: Mike Shula up to OC and Scott Turner to QB coach.

Posted by: Caliban | Jan 11, 2013 1:53:39 PM

Why would Norv Turner come be the OC on a team where he is significantly more qualified then the head coach? Not to mention this staff is almost certainly to be cleaned out after the 2013 season. At least Cleveland will be a 2 year guarantee.

Posted by: Tim | Jan 11, 2013 2:05:31 PM

he'll get 2 years at least if he goes to cleveland.

but he'd get a chance to coach cam here. i'd take coaching cam over coaching brandon weeden any day. our team is far more capable of winning this year and going forward. all the pieces are there.

Posted by: charlottean | Jan 11, 2013 2:06:04 PM

1) Jerry Richarson isn't the owner of Cleveland 2) Ron Rivera isn't the CLE HC 3) Even though Cam is a stud, CLE's QB is better suited for Norv's system (think Phillip Rivers) 4) CLE has one of the better O-lines in NFL 5) Trent Richardson had a decent year all while missing training camp & playing w/ broken ribs all year 6) Did I say JR & RR aren't in CLE?

Posted by: gopanthers | Jan 11, 2013 2:35:04 PM

Can we trade Jerry Richardson for the Brown's owner?

Posted by: kevin | Jan 11, 2013 3:42:28 PM

Please tell me the Panthers aren't serious about pursuing Turner. Just to make it clear, Turner is below .500 for his entire coaching career, has 0 superbowl appearances, has 0 conference championships, and won his division 5 times in 15 years (since each division has 4 teams, you should, in theory, win 25% of the time, so his winning the division 33% of the time is NOT impressive). Moreover, his sideline demeanor and in-game strategy decisions are notorious for making sports page headlines - and not the good kind of headlines.

C'mon Panthers. Roll the dice with an innovator - I'd rather find a DIII coach with some guts and a unique skill-set than recycle proven mediocrity.

Posted by: Zro | Jan 11, 2013 4:19:16 PM

This will not work out. Norv Turner has more experience than Chud. It will be like pushing a rope. Oh well, same old same old.

Posted by: Don Pippin | Jan 11, 2013 5:00:23 PM

the hate for richardson is appalling. completely uninformed and undeserved. it's the same crowd that wanted john fox fired because his brand of football was boring.

boring wins.

Posted by: charlottean | Jan 11, 2013 5:53:54 PM


Posted by: L.T | Jan 11, 2013 7:53:13 PM

rumor has it ... defense and a good QB wins football games

Posted by: ECU82 | Jan 11, 2013 8:47:05 PM

Its not what you know its who you know. Does not sound to good to me.

Posted by: ahrcshaw | Jan 14, 2013 7:32:31 PM

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