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March 18, 2013

Gettleman can relate to fans' frustrations


Attention, Panthers' fans: Dave Gettleman feels your frustration.

The Panthers' first-year general manager is frustrated, too.

Taking over a roster that was about $16 million over the salary cap when he was hired in January, Gettleman has spent most of his first free agency as GM cutting players and getting the Panthers below the $123 million cap.

The Panthers released three defensive starters – CB Chris Gamble, LB James Anderson and DT Ron Edwards – while re-signing three backups and/or special teams players.

Their lone acquisition has been Drayton Florence, a 32-year-old cornerback who started three games for Detroit in 2011.

But Gettleman said he has a plan, and talked about the need for patience.

“You can't print money. Everybody in the league knows we're up against it. We're trying to figure it out, and we have a plan,” Gettleman said Monday at the NFL owners meetings at the Arizona Biltmore.

“It's just about patience, it really is. Believe me, we are just as frustrated as anybody else by our current situation. However, there's answers out there and we have a plan that I feel good about. When it's over, it's going to be fine.

“We live in an instant gratification society, and I get all that. But at the end of the day, this takes time.”

Gettleman did not offer details about that plan, but indicated the Panthers will be more active in the second wave of free agency as the market cools and players' salary demands decrease.

“The bottom line is it's a buyer's market. We get that. But at the same time we want to be respectful and you don't want to anybody in your building that's upset over getting a low number,” Gettleman said. “We're just trying to be thoughtful and a little bit maybe for some, too methodical. But we're going to be thoughtful and methodical about how we operate.”

The Panthers made offers to two defensive starters – cornerback Captain Munnerlyn and defensive tackle Dwan Edwards – that the players believed were unsatisfactory. The agent for Munnerlyn, who became a bigger priority with the release of Gamble, is scheduled to talk with the Panthers again Monday night, according to a league source.

Gettleman said he thought the Panthers had a “puncher's chance” to re-sign one or both of the players.

Gettleman would not discuss the contract status of veteran left tackle Jordan Gross, who was asked to take a pay cut to help the Panthers' cap situation.

Gettleman said it was awkward cutting Anderson and Gamble because he did not know either player.

By cutting Anderson, the Panthers are putting their faith in veteran linebacker Jon Beason, who has been limited to five games due to injuries since signing a five-year, $51.5 million contract extension two years ago.

Gettleman said he is confident Beason, who is coming off knee and shoulder surgeries, will hold up for an entire season.

“We're pleased with his progress. He's working extremely hard. He's a professional, and he wants to play,” Gettleman said. “At the end of the day Jon Beason's a football player. That's what he wants. He's working very hard at his rehab and we're very confident that he'll be fine.”

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on March 18, 2013 at 05:07 PM | Permalink


"By cutting Anderson, the Panthers are putting their faith in veteran linebacker Jon Beason, who has been limited to five games due to injuries since signing a five-year, $51.5 million contract extension two years ago."

LOL. This franchise sometimes makes me so upset. TELL BEASON, GROSS, AND WILLIAMS TO TAKE PAY CUTS OR FIND ANOTHER TEAM!!

Posted by: D.W.G. | Mar 18, 2013 5:57:16 PM

Both Captain Munnerlyn and defensive tackle Dwan Edwards are below average players and want big contracts,they got used to Hurney paying other average players big money so now they want it.I suggest leave the Charlotte and dont let the door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: PRIMETIME | Mar 18, 2013 6:39:57 PM

If they would trade DE aka big money C Johnson for a 7 round draft pick that would free up cap space

Posted by: Bruce | Mar 18, 2013 7:01:09 PM

hopefully he's lying and can't at all relate to any of you guys.

Posted by: charlottean | Mar 18, 2013 7:08:09 PM

Letting Anderson go and keeping Beason (whom I love) reminds me too much of letting Witherspoon walk and keeping Morgan (whom I also loved). Needless to say Morgan only played another seasons worth of games and Spoon played 14 games in 2012...

the more things change the more they stay the same...anyway good luck to Anderson and Witherspoon!

Posted by: ImaCatFan | Mar 18, 2013 7:11:17 PM

Bringing in Chicago Bears and San Diego Charger rejects does not help either. Jordan Gross need to restructure and take a pay cut so that some the of glaring holes in the team can be repaired. The Panthers will not meet all of their team needs with only five picks in next months draft. Gettleman has his work cut out for him but I would not expect much diffence in the product that is put on the field in the fall. It is what it is.

Posted by: Whitecomet77 | Mar 18, 2013 7:56:45 PM

I have heard through a source that knows someone within the organization that Gross is very upset at how much they want to take back. For the life of me, I do not understand why Gettlemen isn't "spreading the pain" a little more. I have heard nothing regarding the Panthers asking Beason or C Johnson to restructure anything....WHY NOT?? Beason is on a 51million 5 year deal in which he has played in 5 of 32 games. C Johnson is playing on a 76 million deal, which is well over his value....thanks Marty. Quit asking Gross to take the whole hit! Let the other two give some back, too!

Posted by: David Crabb | Mar 18, 2013 8:11:04 PM

I agree with Charlottean when they let good of Will Weatherspoon who was entering the prime of his career for no good reason at all. Morgan was a beast a lot like Jon Beason is but couldn't stay healthy ask of lately. I do believe some of these players have to come down from these balloon front loaded inflated contracts in order for the team to succeed. This will enable them to acquire better talent in the free agency market and fill more holes in the NFL draft. Team is also about sacrifice and not everyone is doing that.

Posted by: Taurus | Mar 18, 2013 8:17:03 PM

I would trade all of them for picks and start from scratch. #BlowItUp

Posted by: Go panthers | Mar 18, 2013 8:28:06 PM

Gettleman is a total joke. Just another Yes Man like Hurney that will never do a good job.

So you have a "plan" but you can't tell anyone about it. Gross won't restructure but you refuse to comment on it. Why all the secrets? Because the guy has no freaking clue what he's doing. As a PSL holder I couldn't be more frustrated with this joke of a franchise. Time for Jerry to sell. Worst owner in the league with a lackey of a GM.

Posted by: Ted | Mar 18, 2013 9:06:01 PM

Ted, you know absolutely nothing. Gettleman is dealing with a near-impossible situation created by Hurney. And what he's saying is, this team is so over extended with a few expensive contracts, that it will take time to turn it around. You can flat out release players but they can still cost you millions against your cap space. Example #1: Hurney finally released Jake, but the Panthers had to pay him $12 million...the year he played for the Browns....and much of it counted against our cap space. It's an incredibly complicated system, and the Hurney curse will not start disappearing until 2015.

Posted by: The Anti Ted | Mar 18, 2013 10:23:01 PM

Thanks for nothing, Hurney.

Posted by: Jason | Mar 18, 2013 11:22:23 PM

Ask my friends and they will tell you that I called for the "Hurneyto go" 5 years ago. Worst GM in the league. Horrible drafter and lousy when it came to draft picks and FA. How many picks and how much $ were wasted trying to find a No.2 receiver; then there was Claussen and that fool from App State. Should have traded either running back for a high draft pick, and cut all who are or who have been injured, starting with Beason. Stay away from previously injured players.

Posted by: Allyn | Mar 19, 2013 4:13:37 AM

you guys are idiots.

Hurney left us with our entire starting units in tact and talented and young. How did he eff us up? you're made we aren't signing free agents. WE DONT NEED FREE AGENTS. we have 3 holes and 6 draft picks. if we resign munnerlyn and edwards, you could argue we have 1 hole.

we went 7-9 last year not 1-15. of the 9 losses......7 of them came down to one play which was botched by our coaches. talent is not the issue.

Posted by: charlottean | Mar 19, 2013 10:50:08 AM

We have five draft picks in this year's draft..not six. Hurney traded the 3rd pick to get Frank Alexander in the 4th round last year and he traded away a 7th for a role player in Louis Murphy who is now with the NY Giants. The Panthers get no supplemental picks in this years draft. There are more than five holes on this team that need filling and they are not likely to all be filled through the draft. Rarely does a team get positive production out of all of its draft picks. The draft is a 'crap shoot" at best. Contracts need to be restructured on players like Johnson, Gross, Williams, and Beason to free up cap space to sign some decent free agents and not rejects from some other teams scrap heap. It has yet to be seen whether Gettleman is up to the job or that he sees the glass half full or half empty. He has done little so far that was not expected and has done little to this point to improve the team. Rivera is saying nothing and likely will not say anything about the current state of the roster. The product put on the field in the fall will tell the tale.

Posted by: Whitecomet77 | Mar 19, 2013 12:34:19 PM

Anyone who is Gettleman is an idiot doesnt know anything. All i know is Gettleman was put into a terrible cap situation left by Marty. Marty obviously wasnt a good GM. Yes he did draft some talent, but he also overpaid way too many players. Charles Johnson is a great DE but not for that kind of money. Gamble was a good player, but Marty payed him like he was Revis. You can go on and on about Marty. bottom line is Gettlemen is tryin to fix our cap situation and his hands are tied... All i know is he really cant sign anybody significant, do us as fans. He will have to get lucky and sign some vets, who will take less, and get lucky with some draft picks. Go luck Dave

Posted by: David | Mar 19, 2013 2:45:21 PM

apologies...i meant 5 picks.

we have our entire offensive starting lineup returning. no holes there. we have our defensive ends, linebackers, SS all returning and solidified.

we have 2 young corners who started large chunks of last year. we signed a vet. assuming we get munnerlyn back, there's no hole there. assuming he isn't back, we have a slight void to fill there.

FS.....we have nakamura but we need an upgrade. THIS IS A POSITION OF NEED.

DT.....we have kearse and fua who have 21 combined starts over the last 2 years. we already signed colin cole who has 34 career starts on some pretty good packers and seahawks teams. if we sign edwards, we're in decent shape. if not, COMPLETELY expect our 1st or 2nd round pick to be one.

3 holes to fill......FS, DT, nickel back. where you guys are looking at this roster and saying "oh wow hurney effed us" is beyond me.

our success hinges on whether or not rivera gets his job done. his mismanaged the clock, had horrible schemes and horrible play calling in the 4th quarter on 7 out of 9 losses. the other 2, we weren't even in the game for him to eff it up.

this is not a talent issue. 3 holes to fill....sign munnerlyn, draft a DT and a FS. set.

Posted by: charlottean | Mar 19, 2013 3:01:58 PM

I agree with you partially and then we have some disagreement. There are problems on the offensive line that are in need of fixing. Quality depth past the starters is very thin. Lafell had a nice season but he has not proven to be a solid #2 wideout behind Smitty. Murphy played the slot receiver position quite a bit last year and he is gone. Without Dwan Edwards, there are glaring holes at the tackle position. There is very little depth at linebacker after the starting three and even with Florence, the defensive backfield is an entire quesion mark. Special teams are still a problem and have holes through and through. The kicking was not very good last year. Norton did not have a productive season as the punter but he has room for improvement. Journey man kicker Graham Gano is a liability and the Panthers need to start looking for a long term answer at kicker. There has been no reliability at the postion since John Kasay was cut by Rivera and Co. Not a good move. There are more holes here than meets the eye. The draft alone with five picks will not fill all of these holes. Scrap heap players are not the answer either. Gettleman will be earning has paycheck this summer and early fall if he does anything to improve the team. Waiting for two years for the cap situation to improve is not the only answer. Richardson, Gettleman, and Rivera are the decision makers and a lot of what we see next fall will depend on what they do.

Posted by: Whitecomet77 | Mar 19, 2013 3:40:45 PM

Lafell absolutely is a solid #2 option on a team that SHOULD be run heavy. Olsen is an upper echelon pass catching tight end as well. we have plenty of receivers. David Gettis is a wildcard there, edwards is too. Pilares has showed a lot of promise out of the slot as well. We have play makers at the position and all of them can catch the ball. None of them are physical beasts, but drops aren't a huge issue with any of them.

Agree about DT, you expect fua and kearse to be solid rotating and grow up a bit after 2 years of playing, but a 1st round pick on an elite talent at the position is needed.

Agree about the kicker, don't agree about nortman. I thought he was solid. I remember he shanked one in a critical situation once, but he was SOLID the vast majority of the year. for a rookie?

return game should be solid if everyone comes in healthy. edwards/adams/pilares are all competing for 1 or 2 roster spots and the return game will have a lot to do with that. all 3 have big play capability and have shown it.

lack of depth at linebacker is a problem, but we have one of the best linebacking groups in the league. hard to complain about it being a weakness. especially when one comes off in nickel coverage anyways. senn is a vet now, onatolu is too. williams. we've got some guys that have played some.

norman and thomas were SOLID last year. everyone is calling out cornerback as being an issue, but if munnerlyn is back, we're solid at the spot. we went to the superbowl with terry cousins and reggie howard. think about that for a minute. these dudes are definitely better than they were.

offensive line is fine. the issues we had last year were because of lack of experience with bell and silatolu and with khalil missing most of the year.

DT, FS, maybe corner. that's it. We'll draft DT number 1 and draft a defensive back early. We're fine talent wise.

If we had any reasonable coach last year, we won a bunch of games. We're in a far better position talent wise than most teams. Probably top 5 on paper. We lost to inferior teams on the regular last year. Injuries were a problem. It's one thing when average guys get hurt, but when 2 of your top guys go down for the whole year, in addition to other guys missing a lot of time, it's tough. Little luck there goes a long way.

but anybody that doesn't think hurney did a heck of a job, doesn't understand his job. He's supposed to field talent under the cap. He's done that. They aren't new guys. It's the same guys. And that's a good thing.

Posted by: charlottean | Mar 19, 2013 5:04:45 PM

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