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August 27, 2013

Panthers, Hardy talking about a long-term deal

The Panthers have been talking with defensive end Greg Hardy and his representatives about possibly getting a long-term deal done with Hardy before the start of the season, according to a league source.

Hardy, coming off a breakthrough season in 2012, is set to make $1.35 million this season in the final year of his rookie deal.

Drew Rosenhaus, Hardy's agent, approached Panthers' officials about a contract extension during the spring. At the time, first-year general manager Dave Gettleman was working to get the Panthers' salary cap situation under control.

Gettleman inherited a roster that was $16 million over the cap when he was hired in January. The Panthers currently are about $12 million below the cap.

After finishing with seven sacks total his first two seasons, Hardy had 11 in 2012. He added 23 quarterback pressures and two forced fumbles.

Hardy, 25, a sixth-round pick from Ole Miss in 2010, teamed with defensive end Charles Johnson for 23.5 sacks last season, the second-highest total by a pass-rushing tandem in team history.

If they fail to reach an agreement on a long-term deal with Hardy, the Panthers could use the franchise tag to keep him. The tag for defensive ends cost teams $11.2 million this year.

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on August 27, 2013 at 01:09 PM | Permalink


hardy is good but not 11 mill good. thats ridiculous when we have alexander ready to step up. and doesn't he still have to play this year for the 1.35 mil? i hate agents. dude has one good year and gives himself a nickname and wants a large contract extension.

Posted by: zac | Aug 27, 2013 1:27:39 PM

God knows we need to give the Kraken what he deserves so he will stay in Carolina. He has earned his respect and is a beast. Charles Johnson and Greg Hardy are a power house sack duo!

Posted by: James | Aug 27, 2013 1:28:57 PM

Zac, you must not have seen Alexander not staying home on the back side this last game. He is not on the same level as Hardy. Hardy deserves to be paid, maybe not big big money, but paid nonetheless.

Posted by: Ronnie W | Aug 27, 2013 1:32:29 PM

I have every confidence that Gettleman won't throw around the same stupid money that Hurney did. Dude didn't restructure all those contracts just to create more bad ones.

Posted by: Robert T | Aug 27, 2013 1:37:30 PM

Hardy should get a nice raise. Defense wins SUPERBOWLS. Just ask the NYC Giants.

Posted by: Panther 4life | Aug 27, 2013 1:44:04 PM

All of us without a doubt WANT the Kracken here for the long term. But I'm leary about the fact that he decided to finally play football when his contract is nearing the end. Like Robert T stated, I trust Gettleman to pay him something fair without handicapping the future of the team.

Posted by: Smitty | Aug 27, 2013 1:44:11 PM

When it comes time to resign Luke and we're broke because we gave away all of our money to this 1 year wonder, we will regret it. Believe me. People need to stop getting hype when somebody plays good for one year. Wasn't Charles Johnson a lesson learned?

Posted by: Mark | Aug 27, 2013 1:47:03 PM

Pay Hardy so he can #ReleaseTheKraken lol! #KeepPounding

Posted by: Jasin | Aug 27, 2013 1:49:46 PM

Was Johnson not a lesson? The man has accrued 33 sacks in 3 seasons and somehow that's a mistake?

Posted by: Daniel | Aug 27, 2013 1:57:48 PM

I would rather have Cam than hardy just saying I think Cam will be great in the long run

Posted by: Dezmon | Aug 27, 2013 2:09:53 PM

4 or 5 year deal for something in the range of $7-8 mil per year sounds about right. Also gets them out of Big Money's deal after a few seasons with security and they can pay Cam.

Posted by: Awesome | Aug 27, 2013 2:21:38 PM

With the addition of Stsr and KK we had better pay him now bc the price tag goes up a few mill after this monster season he is about to have. And those who doubt Gettleman's ability to sign Kraken Luke and Cam must not have noticed our 26 million dollar cap turn around this off season. Have faith in the man. And LETS GO PANTHERS

Posted by: Rummy | Aug 27, 2013 2:30:14 PM

i say pay the man

Posted by: Gwane | Aug 27, 2013 2:33:46 PM


Posted by: BILL | Aug 27, 2013 2:40:13 PM

Dosen't everyone realize that these Long Term / Lifetime deals are coming directly from the top man - Jerry.? He is way too nice and loyal to his players, and rewards them like they are tenured managers at his former Hardees or Quincy steak joints! While it is admirable - it does not translate to wins in the NFL!

Posted by: td1315 | Aug 27, 2013 2:41:31 PM


Posted by: JE | Aug 27, 2013 2:50:08 PM

Pay him now or regret it later.

Posted by: tbraziel | Aug 27, 2013 3:23:44 PM

charles johnson had 7 forced fumbles last year. charles johnson might be underpaid when you think of mario williams getting 20 million more and julius peppers getting 8 more while being 6 years older. we paid peppers 16.7 million to give us a completely comparable 10.5 sack 2 interception 5 ff season in 2009.

and he should get some credit for allowing greg hardy to get his sacks up last year. can't chip both of them every play.

i'm tired of hearing how hurney left us in "cap hell". we're 12 under the cap because of cuts and restructuring that hurney made possible with how he structured the original contracts. that's STANDARD business in nfl. just like next year....charles godfrey won't be getting 5 million in base salary. johnson will probably give up some base salary to get more guaranteed money.

that's the game hurney played successfully all these years. sign the big contract with the back end non guaranteed and use that contract AGAINST the players to leverage them back down to earth. he didn't leave us in "cap hell" he left us with leverage to keep all the guys that matter and cut all the guys that don't matter anymore.

looking at next year's cap figures and around 122 cap......throwing greg hardy big money using the 12 million we're under THIS year and then drafting jordan gross' replacement 1st round........still leaves us plenty good with all of our core guys retained. and that's before you start restructuring the deals of godfrey and olsen who have 7+ million figures next year that they surely won't get unless they have monster years this year.

we are FAR from being in a bad salary cap situation.

Posted by: charlottean | Aug 27, 2013 3:33:41 PM

Yes give him a new deal but NOT until the end of the year, we need him hungry and we all know how guys like this play in a contract year.

Posted by: Shane P | Aug 27, 2013 3:53:18 PM

james, i agree with you on a certain level. however, frank alexander rarely gets playing time. i like hardy i do but 11 sacks should not get you 11 million a year. I can wait for the Cardiac Cats to return to full force.

Posted by: zac | Aug 27, 2013 3:57:24 PM

Daniel, for what we paid Charles? Yes, it was a mistake. I never said he wasn't good but he isn't working being one of the highest paid in his position. The only reason why Hurney even gave Charles that money was because he trying to make up for loosing Peppers and knew the fan base could get on him if we lose another DE.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 27, 2013 4:26:07 PM

Pay him!!! I agree he's worth it!!!

Posted by: The Three Degrees | Aug 27, 2013 4:51:08 PM

Zac I didn't know that you were GM. I believe that GM Gettleman would also be surprised. I think I'll go with Mr. Richardson and GM Gettleman. They know a great deal more about salary caps and player worth than you or I. Our 2 starting
DE's are top shelf. I like your enthusiasm though.

Posted by: Hugo Panther | Aug 27, 2013 5:01:00 PM

Gotta agree with Shane P at 3:53. The minute you write the big check, players seem to fade away.

Posted by: Jellybean | Aug 27, 2013 5:25:30 PM

I think we should absolutely pay him..Our front seven looks great...And someone stated alexander as a great option...you need to do more research...he doesn't demand the double! Hardy wants to be a Panther...and he's hungry for offensive lineman...lets feed him! Then we really need to work On Cam...and a better offensive line!

Posted by: PantherFan910 | Aug 27, 2013 6:29:12 PM

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