August 14, 2013
Video: Josh Norman makes ridiculous one-handed interception
We tweeted about it. We talked about it. We wrote about it.
And thanks to one fan with a smart phone, we can watch it again.
On Tuesday, the Panthers final day of training camp in Spartanburg, cornerback Josh Norman made a great one-handed interception on a pass intended for James Shaw during red zone drills. (Also, check out Mike Mitchell run to Norman to congratulate him on the pick.)
(Credit Doug Kirkley with the camera work, and hat tip to Steven Feezor for the video.)
The catch may have been the play of training camp. Norman, of course, is coming off a preseason game where he had two interceptions, including one returned for a touchdown. His stock is rising this preseason, and Tuesday coach Ron Rivera said the staff still has not decided on the starters at cornerback.
Posted by Observer Sports on August 14, 2013 at 09:00 AM | Permalink
who is james shaw?
Posted by: big gulps | Aug 14, 2013 9:34:11 AM
He's a receiver who probably won't be on the 53-man roster, but hopefully can make the practice squad.
The real question will be whether Josh Norman can hold his weight well enough over the next 2 preseason games to earn the starting spot and shift Cap back to nickel CB.... I can only hope for our defense's sake....
Posted by: Steven H. | Aug 14, 2013 9:41:23 AM
Damn that was sick!
Posted by: Tim | Aug 14, 2013 10:05:16 AM
Posted by: FacePainter | Aug 14, 2013 10:14:10 AM
norman was fine last year for a rookie. The problem was way more in scheme than anything. the big stat being thrown around by "reporters" is the league worst completion %. They fail to mention that the yards per completion wasn't bad. We were letting guys catch the short stuff and tackling. it's not a bad scheme for 3rd and long. It's not a bad scheme for 1st and long. It's really not a bad scheme until you get the 4th quarter and you have the lead and the opposing team is throwing 4 downs straight.
that's where we got beat, specifically against the bears. but norman got scapegoated a bit for that. he wasn't great, but he was far from the culprit last year.
corner is far from a weakness of ours. we are 4 deep with guys with solid starting experience. how mitchell plays will determine if secondary is a problem or not. one leak can cause a flood.
norman, thomas, munnerlyn.....all late round gems by.......hurney.
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 14, 2013 11:05:35 AM
thanks Steven H.
Posted by: big gulps | Aug 14, 2013 11:13:37 AM
Posted by: Mike W | Aug 14, 2013 11:37:12 AM
Posted by: Anthony | Aug 14, 2013 11:47:39 AM
You couldn't be more wrong. The issue with Norman last year was route confusion and playing 10 yards off his guy each time. It would be 1st and 10 and he'd give up 10. He was so worried about being deep he gave up huge chunks in front of him. They keyed on him during the Chiefs game and we made Quinn look like Tom Brady. It was a joke.
Also, Munnerlyn and Norman are not "late round gems". The verdict isn't out yet on Norman until he plays a bit more, he may very well turn out to be decent. Munnerlyn on the otherhand is a hardworker, but he doesn't produce as a starter and is barely decent enough to be a nickel CB. All but one of his INT's have been from poor throws, not good coverage. Both pick six's last year were thrown well behind the intended WR. The only reason Munnerlyn caught them was because he was so far behind the WR. Then 2 of his 3 INT's from 2010 were very poorly thrown. The Clevaland throw was a late, pressured throw from Delhomme. The other was a lame duck pass lofted too slowly from Palmer to Chad Johnson. So again, Munnerlyn is not the answer to any question at CB. At least Norman played well in the preseason, but then again we went 4-0 in the preseason before we went 1-15 so take that for what it's worth. Also, you said Josh Thomas was a "late round gem" from Hurney. That's amazing, considering Thomas was drafted in the 5th round by Dallas. So you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Thomas is a stronger CB but his coverage skills leave something to be desired, but he's an upgrade from Munnerlyn for sure.
Posted by: Greg | Aug 14, 2013 12:11:14 PM
Munnerlyn is a perfectly solid nickel patrolling the middle where you need speed but not as much size. He should never be tabbed as a starting corner again, though.
Posted by: Bull City Dog | Aug 14, 2013 2:38:18 PM
Um no...Thomas was not drafted by Hurney. He was a Cowboys draft pick.
And not sure how you are considering Munnerlyn a "gem"? Any time he's played outside of the Nickel he's consistenly burnt. One of the worst CB's in the league and there's a reason no other team in the league wanted him. I do hope you are right about Norman, jury is still out but things are looking up.
For every Hurney "gem" past the first round I could give you 10 Hurney "busts" past the first round! Let's stop living in the past, he's gone and its time to move on...
Posted by: Frank the Tank | Aug 14, 2013 2:44:21 PM
Oops sorry Greg...didn't mean to plagarize most of your post there. Had not read it before posting mine, ha.
Posted by: Frank the Tank | Aug 14, 2013 2:45:39 PM
1- greg you aren't very good at the internet....the names on the bottom chief.
2- 10 yards off the line.....you think that wasn't scheme? we were in "prevent" D preventing us from winning most of last year. if they didn't want him 10 yards off the line....don't you think a reasonable coach would pull him immediately? thomas was doing the same thing.
3- anybody drafted in the late rounds that plays in the league for a while is a gem. anybody that's drafted in the 7th round that starts? how is that not a gem. drafted in the 5th round and starts as a rookie? absolutely a gem.
4- you're right.... thomas was drafted by dallas.....hurney claimed him off waivers. still a 5th round pick, still brought in by hurney. still started games last year and may this year. still a late round gem.
anymore questions? or should we start talking about greg hardy?
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 14, 2013 6:02:48 PM
Boy wants to play some ball. He's got that "Go Get It" in him this season. Let's eat!!!!!
Posted by: Rob | Aug 14, 2013 8:01:50 PM
Nice catch Norman. Let's hope you can keep it up.
Its so funny reading this Charlottean guy get ripped by everyone lol. How could you possibly be a fan of Hurney still? Unbelievable.
One of the worst GM's in the NFL and he is constantly trying to defend the guy. But throws Rivera under the bus any chance he gets. Hurney had over ten years to mess up this organization. Rivera is only in his third year and already is trending up. Two back to back rookie of the year draft picks under his coaching.
Posted by: D.W.G. | Aug 15, 2013 5:55:04 AM
More Wrong? Wrong is an absolute state not subject to gradation.
Posted by: Geoff | Aug 15, 2013 8:48:14 AM
Thanks Jonathan for the share! Can't wait for this season to unfold and to see more of this guy!
Posted by: jodokirk1125 | Aug 15, 2013 10:01:18 AM
how can you still be a fan of hurney?
because every year we were healthy....the teams he and fox put out there were successful.
and because if we had been coached correctly last year, we would have been 12-4. if we're coached correctly this year, we'll be 12-4.
and out of our 22 starters......last I checked the entire offense plus 8 of the defense if not 9 (depending on how cornerback sorts out) are hurney guys. and lotulelei would have been drafted by hurney, gettleman, david kahn, chaka khan, shaka zulu, afrika bambaataa and the zulu nation.........literally anyone in our position is taking lotulelei when he falls in our lap and we need a defensive tackle.
it's the same kind of clown that thinks it was hurney's fault we weren't winning last year that thinks it was john fox's fault we weren't winning in 2010, and hates guys like jake delhomme, jon beason, dan morgan, etc. completely unnecessarily.
same kind of clowns that think ted ginn is our 3rd or even 4th best receiver on our roster.
hurney was a very good GM. but I can't expect this fanbase to be smart enough to realize it. no......when they win this year and next it will be because of gettleman.....riiiiiight.
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 15, 2013 12:21:57 PM
Hurney sucked and he is gone bc of it. Don't give me the argument that most of the starters were Hurney picks. Bc if Gettleman had his choice, half this team would be gone. Hurney would not have picked KK in the second. He would have taken Star and some scrub like Armanti in the 2nd(a project for four years before he even sniffs the field). Hurney apologists make me sick!!
Posted by: DieHardCatz | Aug 15, 2013 12:44:21 PM
because he wasn't the guy that delivered contenders in 2003, 2005, and 2008 before timing the rebuild brilliantly in line with the cap less lock out year right?
gettleman's showing that he's a good GM too. you know why? because he DIDN'T do exactly what you said. most GM's would. he gets a TON of cred for NOT cleaning house just to get rid of hurney's guys. hurney's guys are solid. we were 7-9 last year and lost 7 of the 9 losses on 1 huge coaching gaff. that's not on the GM (outside of the part where he hired rivera). He didn't run off fox.
show me all of the franchises that were contenders 3 years out of the last 10, and are poised to contend 5 out of the next 10 after drafting back to back rookie of the year franchise guys in the first round? show me all of those franchises.
you're talking about new york, new england, indianapolis, pittsburgh, new orleans, philly, baltimore,
not atlanta, not tampa, not miami, not cleveland, not buffalo, not oakland, not tennessee, not san deigo, not dallas, not washington, not detroit, not jacksonville, not kansas city, not arizona, not st. louis, not san fran although they've gone back to back years, not houston.
we were right in that mix of chicago, minny, seattle, denver, new york jets, philly, etc. that competed year in year out and contended at least 3 times and came up short. you CANNOT complain about that. not compared to the above mentioned teams.
and not to mentioned he inherited a 1-15 franchise in shambles. anybody that calls themselves a panthers fans and has ANYTHING negative to say about hurney/fox/delhomme is being unreasonable.
look it up, delhomme had one of the best w/l records all time as a starting quarterback regular season or playoffs. our w/l record was horrible without the guy. that defines the hurney era. with delhomme great, without him...eehhh.
it's not apologizing. it's stating facts. we have a stacked team because hurney built it that way. we're 13 million under the cap with that same stacked team because gettleman didn't eff with the program, he saw it through. he did EVERYTHING hurney would have done this summer. cut gamble and anderson, kept everyone else. brought in a few pieces, drafting the tackles up front.
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 15, 2013 1:15:00 PM
@charlottean thank you for using your Brain when u watch these games. Yes they absolutely played a soft D last year. It wasn't just Norman playing off the ball. It's the concept of keeping everything underneath and rallying to the ball and not getting beat deep (although hard when Godfrey and nakamura are our safety valves). @ Greg u criticize his INT's cuz of poor throws(which is what took place in this video, but still great position by JN) but that's how u get picks. Capitalize on other teams mistakes. There is no defense for a perfect pass which is why the great QB's have low INT numbers. Norman was a rookie learning on the fly starting at that. He did well IMO. U wanna criticize pass coverage then why aren't u critiquing Luke Keuckly's pass coverage? Go back and watch the games last year he got burned every game. A lot of them for TD's. I want my MLB to man the middle of the field. Not give up 3rd down pass conversions just so he can make a few more tackles to pad some stats. Yes he lead the NFL in tackles but at what expense? TD's and losses. Keuckly's pass defense is one of the most glaring weaknesses on this team period. And yes charlottean, Greg probably does think that Ginn should be out 3rd WR. Haha. That's laughable. He causes more interceptions than a defense can. He is the epitome of a bust. 1st round flop. But I don't reckon u think the GM that took him was as bad as Hurney do ya? Hurney wasn't the best by any means but he was at least in the upper half of GM's. there's not a perfect science ya know?
Posted by: Christoph | Aug 15, 2013 1:22:37 PM
it's hard to understand the concept that there are 32 teams, 12 playoff spots and 1 champion. by nature of the way the hard cap and draft work in the NFL, you SHOULDN'T make the playoffs but 3 or 4 times every 10 years. and even that isn't accurate because it doesn't account for the elite 4-5 guys that lead their team to the playoffs every year for their careers (think manning, brady, ray lewis, mcnabb, roethlisberger, etc.)
so 12 spots every year and 4 or 5 of them are eaten up by the generational superstars.....you have about a 28% chance of playoffs every year in a system that is built specifically for parity and wide open competition. and the unrealistic, disloyal fanbase that we have........is dissatisfied with a guy that inherits a 1-15 team and turns around and gets you 3 playoff runs in a 10 year span.
and rebuilds in a manner that almost guarantees more than 3 playoff runs in the next 10, more - assuming that newton continues to develop into one of those elite superstar guys.
but yea....hurney was horrible.
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 15, 2013 1:59:17 PM
"but yea....hurney was horrible."
I have to say that, with the exception of our fourth round pick, all of Gettleman's picks this year look like they are not only going to make the team but contribute right away. I would say that for the most part this was not the case for drafts during the Hurney era. If he had been able to draft well consistently, then he would still be here.
Time will tell, but I think you will find Gettleman a better talent evaluator and better at cap management (For instance, I don't think you will see him tie up so much money in running backs!). Was Hurney decent GM? Yeah...I mean we're not the Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns!
I think we are in for more playoff runs in the DG era. Go Panthers!
Posted by: NativeNewYorker | Aug 15, 2013 2:49:56 PM
^^^ a reasonable assessment, I'll just point out last year's draft class of.....
kuechley, nortman, norman, silatolu, alexander, adams, and campbell. <<<< that's as close to a perfect draft as you can get. that's a ROY, a solid young punter, a solid DE that could probably start this year for 10-15 teams, a backup safety that AT LEAST is a roster player in the 7th round but is competing for the starting job, a probable long time starting corner, a longtime starting left guard.........and adams being the big question mark. may or may not make the roster although I would prefer him to ginn given the talent is comparable and the age difference favors adams.
this is a guy that got you beason, khalil, and johnson in the same draft class. stewart, godfrey, conner, barnridge, and otah in the same draft class.
the biggest flaw he had drafting guys was rolling the dice on risk/reward guys like edwards or dwayne jarrett, or jonathan stewart, or jeff otah, or brandon hogan, or cam newton, or greg hardy, or whoever. and that's the exact things you have to do as a GM. you can't play it safe all the time so while you all are harping on him for edwards (who might be poised for a breakout year) or jarrett or otah or hogan (who hardly gets mention)......the guy got hardy and newton and countless others right.
hurney didn't do the wrong thing by giving stewart and williams extensions......rivera just didn't give them the ball. had he done that......hurney'd still be the guy and we would have gone 12-4 last year.
the next argument is always "he gave delhomme that huge extension"......look that one up. it cost the team a little more money to spread that contract he had over like 6 seasons (including the uncapped year) so that we could resign peppers and make a run in 2009. you're coming off an 11-5 season. only thing that went wrong in 2009 was delhomme got hurt again. but the guy was great in 2008 outside of the arizona game.
no extension meant no peppers and others and that meant rebuild then. he chose to make another run at it. he hurt the arm, went 4-7 and then got cut after the season. but NOT giving him the extension would have meant no chance at all. he went all in on 2008 and 2009 like he should of. just because guys got hurt, doesn't mean he didn't present the best possible scenario for a superbowl in the offseason.
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 15, 2013 3:18:31 PM
vick vs cam tonight
who will have more turnovers?
Posted by: big gulps | Aug 15, 2013 3:34:26 PM
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