August 31, 2013
List of Panthers final roster cuts
The Panthers have to go from 75 players on the active roster to 53 by 6 p.m. Saturday.
Below is the list of players released by the Panthers, according to Observer and other media reports. We'll update this list throughout the day:
- QB Jimmy Clausen
- CB Drayton Florence
- TE Zack Pianalto
- WR James Shaw
- WR Brenton Bersin
- G Hayworth Hicks
- DT Sione Fua
- LB Doug Hogue
- S Robert Lester
- LB Ben Jacobs
- RB Tauren Poole
- T Patrick Brown
- S D.J. Campbell
- T Garrett Chisolm
Current as of 5:15 p.m.
-- Joseph Person and Jonathan Jones
Posted by Observer Sports on August 31, 2013 at 10:48 AM | Permalink
Wouldn't surprise me if Clausen shows up here in three weeks wearing a Buffalo uniform. Fua's release surprises me a little.
Posted by: Perry | Aug 31, 2013 11:15:26 AM
Clausen is finally gone, thank goodness! Felt somewhat sorry for the guy, but let's be honest, he was horrible and just dead weight since the day Cam was drafted. Don't really understand the D Florence cut, even if he wasn't going to start he was playing decent and gave the secondary some leadership and depth. Hope Bersin comes back to practice squad, he was raw but looked to have some real upside physical. Go Panthers.
Posted by: mattaditchew | Aug 31, 2013 11:23:20 AM
You have to hit on more than first rounders. This is further proof that firing Hurney was the right move. 7 picks 3 seasons later only one remains. That is franchise killing. We aren't expecting stars with every pick but at least contributors. I seriously doubt Pilares was making the team if healthy.
Posted by: Max M | Aug 31, 2013 11:38:41 AM
Watch Clausen go somewhere else and start lighting it up...
Posted by: orion31 | Aug 31, 2013 11:48:15 AM
Under the same point, Gettlemen only picked one starter in this draft as well and only picked up one starter who is a punt returner.
I wouldn't be too excited about Gettlemen neither. He wasted a 4th round pick who had a 7th round grade. That pick couldn't even make it through a practice let alone earn a spot on the team. That is highly concerning to me.
Besides our last two 1st rounders this team is getting quite old in a hurry and our future looks bleak.
We are wasting a huge opportunity now when we have a franchise quarterback that should be coming into his prime as well as an outstanding receiver. Once Smith is gone, then we are in serious trouble.
Posted by: Rob K | Aug 31, 2013 11:51:33 AM
We better be making calls to Antoine Winfield's reps to have him come here. We need a CB that can tackle.
Posted by: Rob K | Aug 31, 2013 12:01:35 PM
Fua's release surprises me a little also. I know it was third string, but most plays the other day the camera was on him causing trouble for the other side.
Posted by: Not the worst out there | Aug 31, 2013 12:02:59 PM
Carolina is a young team and building one of the best defenses in the league. Probably top 5 now. They are deep at receiver too. Running backs are a concern but if Tolbert is heathy they should be good.
Posted by: George T | Aug 31, 2013 12:27:33 PM
@orion31, I don't think we'll see Jimmy "lighting it up" anywhere.
I like Jimmy, have a tremendous amount of respect for his classy attitude, his work ethic, and his dogged persistence, and hope he lands a job as a backup on a decent team. He deserves to stay in the NFL if that's what he wants.
But he had every chance here: different head coaches, different offensive coordinators, different quarterbacks coaches, different GM's, different systems, different receivers...and he just couldn't make a whole lot of progress. No knock on him: he did his part and worked hard. I just don't think he's very skilled. But he still deserves all the chances any NFL GM's want to give him.
Posted by: Rick | Aug 31, 2013 12:31:37 PM
Mr.George T. I'm going to climb on your bandwagon because you are seeing what I am seeing. We are strong at receiver and can throw some very good combination's now at opposing defenses without wearing out Smith and Olsen. If the play calling does not get to watered down and if Cam will use all his receivers we should be totally awesome! I personally think we have more talent on the team now than ever before! Go Panther's !
Posted by: Paul | Aug 31, 2013 12:50:16 PM
Rob K, Gettleman has actually hit on two starters, because Short will be starting over an aging Dwan Edwards before the season.
But the reality is that those are "wasted picks" because we drafted TWO DTs in the 3rd round in 2011 at spots where we should have serviceable starters... Terrell McClain (cut last year) and Fua. Our first two picks this year really should have been O-Line... but we had to fix the interior of the D-line even worse... where Fua was.
The jury is out on the other picks, but we only had 5, while teams like the Pats, 49ers and Ravens have 10+ b/c of GMs like Marty Hurney. That will stop now.
Posted by: Steven H. | Aug 31, 2013 12:52:49 PM
I think Florence is a salary move. He didn't get a signing bonus, so that $1 million rolls into next year's cap space to help re-sign Hardy. The Josh's both outplayed Florence and are younger. It's sad for Florence, but it makes sense.
Posted by: Steven H. | Aug 31, 2013 12:56:43 PM
Get Tebow for the last 5 minutes of close games. That's when Tebow is at his best and that's when Cam is at his worst.
Posted by: Ben | Aug 31, 2013 12:58:44 PM
Apparently Melvin White has made the team in place of Florence. Florence has had a good career and made plenty of money. Another career appears to be beginning.
Posted by: Steven H. | Aug 31, 2013 1:00:45 PM
How did we get another tebow butt sucker on here.
Posted by: Hugo Panther | Aug 31, 2013 1:21:50 PM
trashing hurney because of 2011 draft class is valid. but ignoring his 2012 draft class is ridiculous.
ignoring his ability to hit late with guys like norman, munnerlyn, hardy, bell, gettis, etc. is ridiculous. not every pick is going to last in the league. a LOT of it has to do with injuries too.
just like you can knock gettleman for kugliba, maybe he turns out to be something, maybe he's always hurt. hurney did the same with brandon hogan. you see a guy who if healthy could be a mammoth come up, you roll the dice with a 3-5 round pick if it looks like a coup.
you guys are judging EVERYTHING with hindsight. how smart we all look when doing that. they have to make the decisions up front. while kugliba might have had a later round grade, clausen had a 1st round grade. and kugliba might have looked like the most promising guard and guard was clearly an area of concern.
drayton florence was a cost related move. surprising nonetheless, but moore, thomas and munnerlyn were all cheaper and equal if not better. it showed that gettleman wasn't showing preference to "his" guys over hurney's. even if the fua move looks that way.
and again, for those that continue to knock hurney.....he left us with a STACKED young defense and great offensive weapons where we have enough cap room to carry forward to retain any guys who deserve it and the clear pressing first round pick next year being to replace an outgoing jordan gross (likely).
hurney left us with all but 2 starters on defense, 1 of which was our first round pick who he surely would have taken also and all but 1 on offense which is turning out to be travelle wharton......one of his guys. hard to pick apart 1 draft class out of his....9 or 10 or whatever. he put together some great teams for us, including this one. we were never healthy and bad outside of the intentional rebuild year.
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 31, 2013 1:46:27 PM
I don't hate Fua. I wish well in all of his future endeavours. We just can't keep players who aren't capable of performing at a high level and expect to reach the top tier of the NFL that the fan base wants to see.
Posted by: Steven H. | Aug 31, 2013 1:46:51 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh I cant wait for next Sunday against Seattle!!! That will be tell-tell in the direction this team may go!!!
Posted by: Good Luck Jimmy | Aug 31, 2013 2:58:25 PM
How exactly did Hurney leave us with cap room to carry forward when we started the about 16mil over the cap, and are projected to be way over the cap next year?
Posted by: Phillip | Aug 31, 2013 3:10:23 PM
@charlottean have you seen the ridiculous amounts of money Hurney gave to guys like Charles Johnson and Deangelo? They were obscene amounts. Granted both of those players are very good but not nearly worth the contracts that Hurney gave them. He depleted our cap by giving extra money to players who didn't deserve it instead of spending that money on players we actually needed.
Posted by: Nic | Aug 31, 2013 3:25:18 PM
started 16 million over the cap with contracts that weren't guaranteed. you think hurney wasn't cutting chris gamble's 10 million? or restructuring the contracts the same way he always did year in and year out?
gettleman didn't perform miracles, we're 12+ million under the cap. all he did was restructure the guys who had high cap figures and decided between davis/beason/anderson who to cut and who to keep.
he'll do the same next year when greg olsen and charles godfrey restructure and jonathan stewart too.
it's standard business in the nfl and hurney was good at that side of things. you sign a guy you want to keep to the longer contract because you hold all the leverage that way. a guy like godfrey is definitely not getting 7 million next year, but he's also not a free agent so he can't negotiate his worth with other teams until we waive him. and it protects us against him becoming ed reed and commanding a ridiculous contract as a free agent.
team holds all the leverage that way. you sign williams AND stewart and pick later.
people still to this day don't understand how brilliant the delhomme extension actually was. delhomme was getting that money no matter how you cut it, hurney spread it out over several years (including the uncapped year) instead of having it all on 2008. doing so kept peppers another year and loaded us up for one last run with that core before rebuilding in 2010.
if we were left in cap hell, there would be no getting out of it. we have 12 million in cap room and ALL OF OUR starters returning (beason in for anderson) from a young 7-9 team that lost 7 games on 1 play. how is that a problem? how did he leave us a mess?
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 31, 2013 3:26:29 PM
@charlottean, bless your unemotional, rational, well thought out comment. So rare around here. Thank you sir.
Posted by: Just Brian | Aug 31, 2013 3:32:17 PM
I thought Anderson, I think his name was, did an excellent job at QB Thursday night. Also, the special team and defense looked awesome. Without them, we may have lost the game. That Ginn is great!! Panthers look much better than in the past.
Posted by: annnort | Aug 31, 2013 3:35:14 PM
just trying to educate the masses since the observer doesn't seem to think newspapers are supposed to do that.
they've been feeding everyone that "cap hell" mess all year directly from gettleman's agent's mouth.
Posted by: charlottean | Aug 31, 2013 3:38:13 PM
Charlottean, Post as often as you would like. Well thought out sir, and makes total sense when taking it in totality. The sky is not falling, it is the limit.
Posted by: YeahRIght | Aug 31, 2013 6:14:09 PM
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