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September 20, 2013

Edwards, Thomas and Dockery questionable for Sunday

Update (2:50 p.m.): Josh Thomas tweets he will not play Sunday against the Giants.


The Panthers will go into Sunday's game against the Giants with two starting safeties and just one backup.

With Quintin Mikell and D.J. Moore out for the game, Colin Jones is the lone backup for the Panthers a week after he was concerned their "emergency safety." Undrafted rookie Robert Lester will start at strong safety and Mike Mitchell will start at free.

"We’ve worked a couple guys at the safety position trying to get a few extra reps in and stuff like that," Ron Rivera said Friday. "If we got into a situation we’d have to find one."

Cornerbacks Josh Thomas (concussion) and James Dockery (thumb/shoulder) are questionable. Thomas is going to see an independent doctor for his concussion protocol Friday afternoon. Rivera said Dockery will be a game-time decision.

If Thomas is cleared by the doctor, he will start opposite Captain Munnerlyn at cornerback. If not, the Panthers could start Josh Norman (knee, probable) or Drayton Florence.

On the defensive line, Dwan Edwards is "very, very questionable" with a hamstring injury that's plagued him since the preseason. Rivera was not optimistic about Edwards' status and said the team will likely know Saturday if he can play. Veteran Colin Cole would start in his place.

--Jonathan Jones 

Posted by Observer Sports on September 20, 2013 at 01:37 PM | Permalink


Who ever has Victor Cruz will be very happy on Sunday!

Posted by: Carmen | Sep 20, 2013 1:58:54 PM

having thomas back would be huge. No idea how he could be cleared though. That collision was brutal. he would have been flagged and fined for the hit if he hadn't gotten the worst of it.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 20, 2013 2:15:24 PM

Carmen, Thomas went low on the tackle, so he wouldn't have been fined. Had the ball carrier been going upfield instead of cutting, he would have gotten him with more shoulder than head.

Hopefully Norman is good to go and full speed Sunday. He's the Guy who will turn bad throws into picks. Pass rush really needs to show up for us this game.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 20, 2013 2:21:28 PM

Last comment was in response to charlottean, sorry Carmen.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 20, 2013 2:22:30 PM

No need to get the jalapenos on the nachos this weekend. There will be plenty of salsa on the field.

Posted by: Timeit | Sep 20, 2013 2:30:40 PM

The MASH unit for the Panthers continues and this is not good for Sunday. I would not be suprised to see Eli Manning, Hakeem Nicks, and Victor Cruz have career stats in this one.

Posted by: Whitecomet77 | Sep 20, 2013 3:04:37 PM

florence and munnerlyn aren't a problem......mitchell was supposed to be the starter to begin the year.......lester's played in bigger games than this......

it's not THAT bad.

i remind you that we rolled out a secondary of

reggie howard, terry cousins, deon grant and mike minter that took us to the superbowl and nearly won it.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 20, 2013 5:41:36 PM

One thing is for sure...Kugbila and Barner have turned out to be huge draft busts at this point. It doesn"t help the injury situation at all. Whiffs by Gettleman and Co.

Posted by: Whitecomet77 | Sep 20, 2013 7:41:14 PM

We need Cam to run a little this week and Williams needs to have a excellent game to open up some passes

Posted by: emoni | Sep 20, 2013 8:12:03 PM

When Your A 4Th Round And 6Th Round Pick Thats Not A Bust Let Alone A Huge Bust. Usually With Late Round Picks You Would Be Surprised If They Consistently Got On The Field Not The Other Way Around. As Of Right Now Greg Hardy Is Really The Only Anomaly On This Panthers Roster

Posted by: Jashuwa | Sep 21, 2013 5:37:27 AM

^^^ munnerlyn, norman, thomas, bell all late round picks as well.

you expect 4th rounders to be around, but 6th is a crap shoot. but you can't call guys a bust in their rookie year. especially injured guys.

injuries do not = bust. jamarcus russell is a bust. aaron maybin is a bust. darko milicic is a bust.

greg oden is damaged goods, but he wasn't a bust. kugbila can't be called a bust yet and he def can't be called jeff otah. otah was dominant for 2 whole years. barner isn't even on IR yet and will almost def be back after the bye week.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 21, 2013 10:08:10 AM

When you only have five draft picks, you can't afford to miss on one of them no matter where they were picked in the draft order. Kugbila was a 7th rounder at best and hardly saw the field at all. Barner is the same. If you're not helping the team and you were drafted, then you are a bust until you prove otherwise. Carolina could not afford a lot of injuries like they did the last two seasons under Rivera and contend. We know what happened to the secondary last weekend. Every pick has to count and it didn't in the cases of Kugbila and Barner.

Posted by: Whitecomet77 | Sep 21, 2013 2:24:43 PM

^^^ that makes no sense.

Guys that miss in the first round when talent is abundant is one thing. missing in the 6th or 7th where pickings are slim is completely part of the game.

if all 7 rounds were good enough for the league, there wouldn't be any 7 year vets in the league at any position. nor undrafted free agents.

your logic is flawed.

gettleman hasn't been the problem the same way hurney wasn't the problem. rivera is costing us every close game with a bonehead decision in each of them.

it's not like we're losing close games because that's the way the chips fall. we're losing them because the guy isn't built for that kind of strategic leadership position.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 21, 2013 2:37:32 PM

We never beat a team when they have a death during the week before the game! We never win a week before a bye and never win a game the week after the bye! Tough times up ahead!

Posted by: joe cool | Sep 21, 2013 2:55:04 PM

we need to used everything we got sunday rookies got to come with big plays cam needs to run when in trouble steve this your game.

Posted by: robert | Sep 21, 2013 8:52:26 PM


Coaching has been a issue and Hurney and his bad decisions have killed us. Bottom line is Jerry gave his blessing on keeping Hurney, signing off on the bad contracts and he hired the coach. 4 out of 18 does not get it Jerry is behind and responsible for this crap

Posted by: steve | Sep 21, 2013 11:14:42 PM

I agree with Steve. The problem is and has always been a cheap owner not concerned with putting a winning product on the field.

Richardson signed off for Hurney and Fox. He signed off for Hurney's bad contracts. He signed off for Rivera. He signed off Gettlemen. He's allowing Gettlemen and Rivera to continue to make bad decisions ruining this team. Until they get an owner who cares about winning football games, things won't change.

Posted by: D.W.G. | Sep 22, 2013 7:58:10 AM

There will be no salsa today; everyone thought Cruz would have a field day, but not if Eli can't throw!!!!!

Posted by: Angus | Sep 22, 2013 2:47:58 PM

hurney hasn't "killed us" with bad contracts. he's put talented teams out there that have won when healthy. in this league.....that's all you can ask for.

4 out of 18 is insanely misleading. I've said it numerous times........14 out of 18 were 7-9 or better. and keep in mind that during the hurney era.......we had 3 of the 4 playoff appearances including 2 conference championship games. your expectations are delusional in a league built for parity.

hurney didn't want to let fox go. richardson did. that was the mistake. they would have made the playoffs last year and quite possibly the year before and DEFINITELY this year with fox.

fox won a playoff game with tebow.

stop saying 4 in 18. we had 4 horrible seasons. 1 was intentionally bad (2010), 2 was the following year going 6-10 under rivera (would have been better under fox), 3 was kerry collins' drinking binge (1998), 4 was seifert's implosion co-starring chris weinke's rookie year (2001).

4 bad years. a ton mediocrity. 4 bad years, 4 really good years. in a league that is BUILT for parity.

and richardson has run the franchise with class and done a lot of things most owners in the league just don't do. you guys are just simply delusional. this isn't baseball or basketball with the haves and have nots. NFL is hard cap - straight draft league.

and during hurney's tenure.....there wasn't rookie scale prior to newton's class. hitting on 1st round picks (hurney's specialty) was easily the most important thing for a franchise because of the amount of money guys were getting. signing guys like jamarcus russell and ryan leaf to huge contracts is what sunk teams for years. hurney never did that. the idiots complain about the delhomme extension because they don't understand the business. that move was logically sound. he didn't think delhomme was going to be "the guy" for the life of the contract just like he didn't think dangelo williams would be (even though he may well turn out to be).the guy knew what he was doing.

gettleman looks to be a solid replacement, but he would be a lot more successful with a better coach. 7-9 last year with 7 losses JUST like our 2 losses this year.

rivera has been the problem.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 24, 2013 1:38:16 AM

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