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January 01, 2014

Greg Hardy looking for "big number" in next contract

A couple of weeks after saying he would take a hometown discount to re-sign with the Panthers, defensive end Greg Hardy said Wednesday he's looking for "a big number" in his next contract.

"It's all about the numbers with me. I don't really have an end game to where I want to hustle or play around or play the market," Hardy said. "I want a big number that I worked for, nothing imaginary. And if you don't believe me, tell me what you want me to do and I'll go do it for you. And then give me my number and we'll be good."

Hardy is coming off a franchise-record four-sack game against Atlanta, which gave him 15 sacks for the season. That tied the Panthers' record established by outside linebacker Kevin Greene in 1998.

Hardy, a sixth-round pick in 2010, has been a bargain for the Panthers, making $1.35 million in the final year of his four-year, rookie deal.

Hardy said he would not be opposed to a franchise tag, which was worth $11.175 million last year for defensive ends.

"I would love a franchise, man. Add another year on my career," Hardy said. "Get to play football a little bit longer without a contract, another year to be in Carolina to give them a chance to get their fiscal responsibilities in order so we can be here forever like Steve (Smith) and a lot of other guys like Thomas (Davis)."

Panthers coach Ron Rivera half-jokingly reminded reporters of Hardy's offer to give the Panthers a discount.

"The nice thing we have going for him is he offered to take the hometown discount so we’ll hold him to it," Rivera said. "He’s done a great job, and we’ll just have to wait and see once we get to that point in the year."

Hardy said the discount still stands.

"It's still discounted. If you take $10 million off $110 million, it's still $100 million," he said. "That's not the case, but you know what I'm saying? It's a number, it's not ridiculous. But I want to be compensated and I want it to be what I deserve. And I will take a franchise tag if that's what it takes to get it done."

--Joseph Person

Posted by Observer Sports on January 1, 2014 at 03:10 PM | Permalink


Greedy players ruin their organization. When the team can't afford quality players because 5 people on the team account for 90% of the cap space. They deserve a losing team. Ex. Ravens. I want hardy to stay but not if he's just in it to better himself instead of the team. He can be replaced.

Posted by: jeff | Jan 1, 2014 3:54:59 PM

He deserves it. Panthers need to find room in the cap to get this guy locked in long term. Tbh 100m is a little steep for my liking tho.

Posted by: Viet | Jan 1, 2014 3:55:09 PM

Tag him. 11mill is a bargain. Steve retires, Gross will probably retire, get rid is Stewart. Take the extra year to make it happen Dave!

Posted by: Chuck | Jan 1, 2014 3:56:03 PM

I lost respect for hardy with his i want money comments. He still makes more than 90% of humanity.

Posted by: jeff | Jan 1, 2014 3:56:39 PM

Got to get this done one way or another I dunno what you got to do but either way you decide to go you will be giving out two big deals you have to resign Hardy but you also need to take care of Cam and then next year you will have to take care of Luke so either way you go if you franchise tag him or sign him now your gonna be giving up two big deals. I say get it over with so we can keep this D-Line together he wants to be here make it happen.

Posted by: Geno | Jan 1, 2014 3:56:58 PM


Posted by: Ceaser Loco | Jan 1, 2014 4:03:31 PM

Jeff, u are talking about a team that years ago was willing to pay Peppers almost 20mil a year. This guy has the motor that Pep wish he had. I would at least ask Big money Johnson to restructure so he can keep his running mate!

Posted by: chuck | Jan 1, 2014 4:04:23 PM

Now, I don't know about 100mil, that's Aaron Rodgers type territory right there, but 65-70 mill is about right. Let's get it!

Posted by: chuck | Jan 1, 2014 4:07:50 PM

He wants big money but fails to realize that we HAVE TO resign our franchise qb

Posted by: T Simms | Jan 1, 2014 4:10:06 PM

Pay the Kraken

Posted by: kenny817 | Jan 1, 2014 4:10:30 PM

In the past we've let quality players go because we did not fully compensate their skill level. It takes fair financial practices to build a quality franchise team seeking championship status. If you begin to exercise this practice dedication will began to show tremendously and more franchise players will exist to build a bigger and better championship chemistry with longevity. Julius Peppers is one prime example. Let's just imagine for one split second if Julius Peppers was a combination with Hardy today. Need I say more. Let's get to the Superbowl 1st. And win..then the entire organization can be compensated :)

Posted by: Bobby | Jan 1, 2014 4:23:05 PM

He can get big money with a losing team or he can get big money with a winning team. Which is better ?

Posted by: JoePanther | Jan 1, 2014 4:23:44 PM

How much did the Beason trade save us the next 2 year. Stew can be move with what his body be through you wounder what he has left. Smith seems to want to end his career here as does Gross. The future is Cam, Luke, CJ, and Hardy. Oh and the new GM did a lot to get us out of the mess we were in im sure he got some tricks up his sleave

Posted by: jay | Jan 1, 2014 4:31:42 PM

Pay the man. But don't break the bank. And avoid the bad salary-cap contracts Hurney always had. However, the one player the team cannot lose is Luke Kuechley.

Posted by: Wade | Jan 1, 2014 4:41:25 PM

Now is not the time to talk money ..we need to focus on bringing a Superbowl Trophy to the Carolinas. All of this money talk is just a distraction at this point. Focus on game strategies and team chemistry. Money divides and exposes selfishness. Some people are blessed well above their means and don't even know it wow! Let's just play some damn football and remain focused!!....."Don't get the big head" your helmet may not fit any longer :)

Posted by: Bobby | Jan 1, 2014 4:49:54 PM

You have to pay the cost to be the boss!!! Get our soldiers lined up for a long and prosperous run.. The standard is the Superbowl so we have to keep what we have not let them get away

Posted by: wills | Jan 1, 2014 4:55:22 PM

Wade has it right.

Posted by: Debbie | Jan 1, 2014 5:10:08 PM

100 Million Dollars Is A Little To Much, If They Sign To That Contract. Then You RUN The risk of losing Cam Newton. keep in mind that's what Julius peppers And His Agent Wanted before He Went To Chicago bears. Look At Him Now, Bet He regrets For Ever Leaving. His Agent Didn't Want Him Here, Even The Sports analyst Said That Julius Peppers Should Have Fired His Agent. You Don't Want To Lose Newton Or Hardy Though. He Said Out Of His Own Mouth (Hometown Discount) So.

Posted by: Big Game | Jan 1, 2014 5:10:13 PM

As in any profession the company needs to compensate it's employees according their performance and market value. Definitely not according to what 90% of Americans make. Those with this foolish logic probably make an hourly rate and know nothing about negotiations and market value. He said he's willing to give a hometown discount but that doesn't mean he's willing to be underpaid.

Posted by: Eric Hurt | Jan 1, 2014 5:39:11 PM

1. Jeff is a moron. Hardy is a football player. What matters is what his peers make based on their worth compared to him and his, not what most of humanity makes. How many PLAYERS with fewer than 15 sacks made much more than $1.35M this year. Plenty of them. That's all that matter in this situation. They are not equal to the rest of us. It is what it is.

2. Win the Super Bowl and I'm sure many more of them will be MORE WILLING to restructure to keep the team together. It's not just Hardy and Newton this year, but you have guys like Mike Mitchell who want to stay in Carolina, who are on 1-year deals. Win it all, more will restructure, others might not mind moving on with the mission accomplished, and more of us will care less because we'll have our championship, lol. All will be well.

Posted by: trayntp | Jan 1, 2014 5:45:21 PM

If you're not going to get some DB help or a stud WR then pay this man.

Posted by: Dan | Jan 1, 2014 5:56:23 PM

Pay this man whether you get DB and WR help or not, but only pay him what his position dictates. He's a DE, so he won't be getting franchise QB money. Person could've provided the going rate for top DEs just for context. Hardy can play all over the field, so he gets a bonus for that, but he doesn't get QB money and you can't pay two DEs that much, so Johnson might need to once again restructure. Not sure he'll want to.

Posted by: trayntp | Jan 1, 2014 6:12:28 PM

How about the Panthers dump oft injured RB Jonathan Stewart and use that $$ to help pay for DE Greg Hardy. Then draft WR and OL in 2014 NFL draft and this team is SuperBowl caliber.

Posted by: Matt | Jan 1, 2014 6:26:05 PM

We all want to be fairly compensated for what we do especially if we do it well. You have have to offer fairly according to his production & his peers @ his position. The amount will be the amount. But I also agree now is not the time to be day dreaming about potential payday

Posted by: jamian carreon | Jan 1, 2014 6:31:11 PM

The Panthers made some extravagant extensions which are going to make keeping the great talent difficult. I want them to pay Hardy too, but there IS a SALARY CAP to consider. Our expensive RB's are taking up some significant space. Decisions will have to be made...tough ones.

Like others, salary talk is the LAST thing any players should be chatting about. I'm sure Hardy is just responding to a reporter's questions, but there is MUCH work to do. Playoffs will require intense focus and much better execution than the last game.

Posted by: Bassman | Jan 1, 2014 6:32:42 PM

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