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March 18, 2015

Former teammate says Hardy 'unmanageable' at times

With former Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy reportedly set to choose between Tampa Bay and Dallas on Wednesday, one of his old teammates had a "buyer beware" message for Hardy's new team.

Ex-Panthers tight end Ben Hartsock, while praising Hardy's playing ability, told a Dallas radio station the embattled free agent could be "unmanageable" at times in Charlotte.

“The Greg Hardy that was on the field was going to be a nightmare for the opposing team. But then you go in and everybody is in the hot tub or the cold tub after practice just shooting the breeze and the guy carries on a very reasonable, level-headed inquisitive type of conversation," Hartsock told ESPN 103.3, via ESPN.com's Todd Archer.

"Then there are other times when he's just unmanageable. And that's why I think things have gotten in trouble with his personal life. He's going have to go a long ways to earn the trust of any organization, whether it be Dallas or any other franchise across the league. His reputation has now become an Achilles heel."

Hardy, still awaiting word from the NFL on a possible suspension for his domestic violence case, was benched for the start of at least two games in Carolina for being late to meetings and/or practice.

He also wrecked his motorcycle in 2011, and tweeted a photo of him apparently driving his Bentley 100 mph.

Those lapses in judgment paled in comparison to the allegations made by ex-girlfriend Nicole Holder, who says Hardy threw her around his condo and tossed her on to a futon covered with semi-automatic weapons during an altercation last May.

The charges were thrown out when Holder, who received a settlement from Hardy, failed to show up for the jury trial in February.

Panthers defensive tackle Dwan Edwards told the Observer last week he understood the Panthers' decision to part ways with Hardy, saying "it's bigger than football sometimes."

Now Hartsock is sounding his own cautionary note on a player who had 15 sacks in 2013 during his last full season.

"Like I said, there aren't many people like him on the planet that can play and that can do the things that he does," Hartsock told ESPN 103.3. "But we are also in an NFL environment right now where any off-the-field liability is frowned upon very strongly.”

--Joseph Person


Posted by Observer Sports on March 18, 2015 at 12:43 PM | Permalink


This really doesn't surprise me. There's no doubt he's a good player, but he never came across as likable.

Posted by: Philip | Mar 18, 2015 1:16:18 PM

I can't believe Gettleman finds it acceptable to start Blind Oher at left tackle. Makes it look like he really is trying to see Cam Newton get injured.

Posted by: Teddy P. | Mar 18, 2015 1:20:46 PM

Teddy, where did you read blind side was going to be starting LT? There's plenty of free agency and the draft left. Either way, it is still an upgrade.

Posted by: djfoams | Mar 18, 2015 1:29:21 PM

Is that it? That's the whole story? How about an example or two? Motorcycle wreck can happen to anybody...100 mph in a Bentley...zzzz.

Posted by: LR | Mar 18, 2015 1:30:44 PM

We will see Greg Hardy again, possibly sacking Cam Newton since the Panther o-line stinks year in and year out.

Players don't seem to work out here but are very good in other places, amazing!

Posted by: RobNclt | Mar 18, 2015 1:43:56 PM

I'm not sure how the guy ever passed a drug test personally. I guess they know when they're going to be administered.

Posted by: LW | Mar 18, 2015 2:09:25 PM

Ben Hartsock has been in the NFL since 2004 and has 1 career touchdown. Maybe that is why he is still a free agent today.

Posted by: john | Mar 18, 2015 2:17:38 PM

LOL at anyone still blaming the O-line for Cam's ineptness at QB. He is a bum, nothing more. Until we address the QB need on this team, no move will amount to anything. It's simple. With Cammie as the QB, we are a team that has a winning season once every five or so years. If we started Anderson every game last year, we win 10. That's not speculation. It's fact.

Posted by: TerryK | Mar 18, 2015 2:24:30 PM

@ TerryK 2:24 PM - I think you need to look up the meaning of fact. Your statement is not a fact, there is nothing to prove it. It is an opinion and you know what they say about those....

Posted by: Cathy | Mar 18, 2015 2:57:01 PM

TerryK must be a family memeber of Anderson LOL! I like Anderson, but no way will he win us more than 7 games. He couldn't do that in Cleveland and Arizona after his 1 good year. But I like him if Cam isn't available to play.

Posted by: Taz | Mar 18, 2015 3:31:32 PM

Dez and Hardy will be best buds. They both have similar hobbies.

Posted by: tony clifton | Mar 18, 2015 3:50:55 PM

Cam is still AWFUL!

Posted by: Cam is awful | Mar 18, 2015 6:28:30 PM

I'm surprised Jerry didn't want to keep Hardy around. Jerry likes to model his team after the Steelers and they kept Roethlisberger after he bought his way out of a rape case. It's obvious the tone that the CO writers use when discussing Hardy that they don't like him on a personal level, but Big Ben is also reputed to be one of the biggest jerks in the NFL (according to one website, whose url excapes me now.)

Posted by: Ben | Mar 18, 2015 8:15:19 PM

Gurley visiting Panthers tomorrow!! The Big Cat best pounce if Gurley is still on the board at 25.

Posted by: chacha | Mar 18, 2015 9:19:49 PM

i can't begin to express how blown away i am that dallas paid hardy as much as they did when they were reportedly the only team even pursuing him on a serious level.

it's per game bonuses so it's structured in a way where he could be cut at any time, but i think it's unlikely he does something THIS YEAR. it will be next summer after he signs the monster extension.

but why give a guy 11 million when you can have him for 4? just seems bizarre. who else was even offering a dollar for the guy besides tampa bay and Cincinnati? ton of teams weren't interested at the minimum because of the bad press and pending suspension/fine.

the guy really shouldn't be suspended though. he sat the entire year already. he should simply have to cough up a large portion of the 13.1 million we paid him to sit (which went directly towards "clearing" his name). doesn't make sense for him to sit 21 games when the rule calls for 6. unless he wants to.

Posted by: charlottean | Mar 18, 2015 9:26:49 PM

Dallas signed him for 750k. He has per game clauses and escalators that allow him to make UP TO 13.1 million in total. If he's suspended he'll be lucky to make even 4 million dollars next season. Hardy hasn't been much of a public issue, so unless there's more that the tan would like to share with us there's at least 10 current and former players who have been convicted and sentenced and i don't hear this kind of uproar. Jonathon Dwyer, last summer head butted his wife and broke her nose, when she woke up the next day in pain and asked how he could do that too her he punched her unconscious. Both visual evidence and police reports, but since he's a bum running back it's not mentioned. Stallworth drunk drives and kills a man and didn't get this kind of attention. Mayor if Dallas calls the team to interrogate them about the signing...? I've never hit a woman nor will i, but if the evidence presented was that condemning then the prosecutors would have Michael Vick'd him and made him an example. I'm not on his side but i think it shouldn't be dwelled upon to no end when the league clearly needs to look themselves in the mirror and find out why they keep dropping the ball legally with these players. Peterson is reinstated, rice is reinstated, even Aldon Smith with his assault rifle investigation pending and fresh out of rehab for substance abuse is not hindered. Until the nfl higher beings figure this punishment evidence level surface thing out they should stop calling attention to the issues, it makes them look as inherit as they seem... IMO

Posted by: cuz | Mar 21, 2015 4:19:04 AM

Ahhh phone auto correct....
1. TEAM*
2. Mayor of*
3. INEPT (not inherit)*

Posted by: cuz | Mar 21, 2015 4:24:40 AM

hey Terry K, just heard you got a job along with the guys on nfl network. they were impressed that you "know so much about football players and cam newton and evaluate so well!" best of luck with your career. i heard some are calling you "THE NEXT MIKE MAYOK!"

Posted by: MOUNTAIN PANTHER | Mar 27, 2015 8:16:55 PM

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