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Kelso

I agree. Fox gave the game away by being conservative. The defense shows signs of excellence - let them be aggressive. I have seen it before - get a lead - get conservative with offensive calling - other team comes back. Wake up.

Authority

I always see it coming. Fox needs a FG to win, so on 1st down he runs up the middle. 2nd down - up the middle. 3rd down - up the middle. FG unit comes in and misses the kick.

When you start a series of downs playing for a FG, you will lose. The Universe abhors conservative play-calling.

jeff

Fox didn't give the game away by being conservative. The Giants took the game away by playing hard. The Panthers let this one slip away, but for christ sake stop placing blame on everyone from John Fox to John Kasey. Fox coached the way he always does (the way that got Carolina to an 11-3 record). Also, lost in the loss was another solid return game from Mark Jones. I, for one, am excited about Carolina's next four games (all wins)!

John

The defense forgot how to tackle, failed to press the receivers and got little pressure on Manning. As for the offense being too conservative, hey... they got 28 points which will win 90% of the games. The defensive strategy is what cost us this one. Give up 300 yards on the ground and you lose. It's just that simple.

Greg S

"Some of you contend that's because he doesn't believe in his quarterback. Not true. He didn't want to risk a turnover."

ugh?

Not "risking" a turnover is the same thing...if we had Peyton Manning you know Fox would at least done 1 play action...it's like he tried to run the clock out (w/ 30 min left) that doesn't work...it was so close...

We'll see if this team can bounce back...I think they will

I LOVE THIS PANTHER TEAM!!!

GO PANTHERS!!!

JC

You can't win a Superbowl by being scared. Fox doesn't trust Jake, despite what he says. He coached scared in the second half and let a game slip away that his team could have -- and should have -- won. We can only hope that he learned something from it.

Michael Procton

Jeff, what was the "solid game" from Jones? He registered barely over 20 yards/KR.

SonnyBoy

Awful pass defense. At least bump the wideout to try to knock off QB timing throws for 1st downs. Can't just let them run wild ALL THE TIME.

Michael Procton

Sonny, it's not a problem if the d-line gets any pressure at all on the QB (particularly the one of them being paid nearly $15 million this year.) Unfortunately, with a few rare exceptions, they didn't.

JT

We had plenty of opportunities to win this game and we didn't...we gave it away. Fox does what he always does, we had an 11 point leave coming out of half time and he started running the ball to beat them their defense up and bleed the clock. 11 times this season it has worked for us and 4 times it hasn't...I'd say the odds are usually in our favor to do that. The simple fact is that the defense lost this game for us. They didn't even come close to stopping the run and the secondary was non existent and got burned by very average receivers just like they have for the last month. Given all of that, we still almost won the game by a field goal and were in position to win the game in OT. I think we'll be just fine, we played the so called "best" team in the NFC in their house, didn't play even close to our best game and still almost won....should have won in my opinion. So, don't start bashing Fox or anybody else. Fox doesn't tackle or try and stop the run.

CPFAN4LIFE

THIS GAME WAS SIMPLY ON THE PLAYERS MORE SO THAN THE COACHES. IN THE FIRST QUARTER,MANNNING THREW A PASS INTO DOUBLE COVERAGE AND IF GAMBLE AND HARRIS HAD ANY TYPE OF AWARENESS ON THAT PLAY THE BALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED OFF. NEXT WAS THE TACKLING WHICH WAS JUST TERRIBLE. STEVE SMITH HOLDING PENALTY AT THE END OF FOURTH HURT BECAUSE WE WERE ABOUT A YARD AWAY FROM PICKING UP THE FIRST AND WOULD HAVE BEEN IN BETTER FIELD GOAL RANGE WHICH THREE YARDS CLOSER WOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH. ALSO IN OVERTIME GODFREY KNOCK DOWN A PASS THAT WOULD HAVE DROPPED IN GAMBLE HANDS AND WHERE WAS EVERYONE ELSE ON THAT MUFFED PUNT? WE HAD OUR CHANCES BUT THE PLAYERS DID NOT SEAL THE DEAL.

JT

Procton...don't start your Peppers bashing again. He has 13.5 sacks this year and is earning his keep. The other guys have to step up and start playing better. We missed Kemo in this game and D-Lew go hurt and it showed. Because no one was there to hold back their guards, they got up on Beason and the safeties...once that's done it's over with. That Johnson kid needs to start stepping up and Brayton had a good 1st half but disappeared in the second half. He needs to play the whole game. Did you see Williams pass blocking? I told you before the season he was a lot better and picking up the blitzer...!!!

Mediocre Giants Suck

What a laugh. The Giants are average at best. Manning is mediocre. Had the wind not been blowing Kasay would have easily won it and you wouldnt be saying this.
The defense clearly broke down at the end badly. Middle LBs sucked at the end. Ward ran right up the gut at the end and won it. Smith sucked and was no factor other than costing the game with missed pass and holding call.

The whole deal is the Giants as mediocre as they are got lucky on the FG miss and mistakes killed the game that easily in the bag until the very end.

Panther players got slack as hell and thought the game was won. Had they not gotten sloppy even with the FG wind miss, it would have been be an easy win.

Titans and Steelers are the best in the NFL. Giants are so-so. Panthers got too cocky arrogant and sloppy.

Moose is only so-so as well like his blocking is and not that big.
While he is better than he used to be he is still a mediocre WR. Nothing close to the the real greats.
We also see Smith is mediocre and gets lazy and sloppy too.

Jake wasnt that bad.

Truth

Giants didn't play near their best game either. Next game has same result but the score isn't as close.

Panthers Fan

Authority...can you name one time that you can remember us running 3 times prior to attempting a game winning field goal and MISSING? There was nothing wrong with that strategy; 95% of the time Kasey makes that kick. And, remember the holding call on 89? We are at least 7 yards closer with the kick if that doesnt happen.

JS from GSO

Not afraid to lose? What about when they were at first down on their own one after Feagle's punt? Smith had single coverage on him and the safety was 10 yards back. Everyone else was stacked in the middle of the line. You mean to tell me that Jake couldn't have flipped a three yard pass to Smith taking an inside move and then let's see how that goes? One broken tackle and the game is over. Instead, they run up the middle, as expected. Contrast that to the Giants' winning TD in the Super Bowl. Manning spots Burress in single coverage and that's where the play goes instead. Nothing goes to Smith in the second half even after the Giants' secondary had broken down several times on medium routes. Why not make the Giants shut him down? Fox's strategy was clear - we have 28 points, that's going to be enough. Too bad the defense can't be consistently counted on to shut down every team it faces. They will not go far in the playoffs if the plan is to take their foot off the gas once they have a lead.

Trey Griffin

We can all jump on the "I hate John Fox or Jake Delhomme" band wagon if we want to. Truth be told they have quietly become one of the NFC powers this year and yes they lost a big game. It wasn't our time to win that one...that's it. Fox and company did what they have done since they got here. Run the ball and make them stop us. The only thing I'd question that night is why they didn't stand next to the heater more towards the end. My heart broke when the wind pulled the ball left on Kasay's field goal but we press on. The Giants are number one and I won't argue that. They won so they get that right. Good news is we can still control the number two seed and if we slip to five...we are going to be a hell of a number five seed to be dealt with in the playoffs.

Brent Caulder

It was a great game by two powerful teams. The difference in the game was actually the fantastic punt by NY that put the Panthers at the 1 yard line. With that great Giants defense stacking the line and not much room or time to operate a passing game, they forced the panthers to punt out of the endzone. That punt goes into the endzone and we win that game. It was just fantastic execution by NY.

But we will get them next time.

Darrell G

want to know why we got our 1st Interference call of the year sunday night?

its because we dont bump the receivers, and we play off, so we are no where near the receiver to cause a interference call.

Our Pass defense is basically ... Play zone and hope they drop the ball.

Trgovac MUST GO!!!!

Darrell G

can anyone tell me one time this whole year that we have tried to block a punt?

I dont count Barnidge's running into the kicker. that was not a block play from the side lines.

John Fox's problem is he believes in the buddy system. he only promotes friends and then when the friend cant cut it (Trgovac) he doesnt have the heart to fire them.

Trgovac would not be a Def. Coord with any other team in the league.

we are wasting our talent on Def.

this is not a rant because of the loss. I have been calling for his head for 3 years now.

jd

Sorensen,
I'm high on this team as well, but I just have a hard time depending on our defense to win a game when they are playing mediocre ball as they were in this game (I might be being generous in saying mediocre).
The offense was hot in the first half - both running and throwing the ball, and than our coaches abandoned the pass (with 8-9 men in box/Smith single coverage on occassion). Our best player on the team was thrown to what 1 time in second half??? There were times the Giants dared us to throw, and Fox cowared away from it.
Again, I'm optimistic, but feel really bad for our offense because they shined, and their coach left them hanging depending on a below average defense in this game. If I were Steve Smith I'd be really angry at my coaching staff for not believing in me to deliver like he delivered so many times in the past. I just hope in future we are up really big or we are losing a close one, so Fox won't play prevent offense/defense. It's amazing how aggressive the Panthers are when they are losing a close game versus when they are winning. Fox don't leave your offense out to dry! They are reason over last half of season you are in the playoffs! The defense is Jeckyl & Hyde.

Michael Procton

And what, JS, if one of our replacement players at RG allows penetration and Jake goes down for a safety? 28-23, and the Giants get the ball and the chance to make sure the game never goes to OT. Was the "foot off the pedal" against Denver? Tampa?

UM

And before you go talking about your nose tackle who was out, just remember that Tuck had the flu all game long and as you saw could barely walk and was collapsing all over the field - Robbins has 2 broken hands and a shoulder injury, and Cofield twisted his knee in the 2nd quarter...3/4 of the starting D-line for the Giants was in bad shape.

BluePanthers

There was a reason that DelHomme didn't throw to Smith much in the second half - Corey Webster, who has quickly become one of the best cover corners in the game. He was all over Smith in single coverage and DelHomme couldn't get the ball to him.

jd

Procton I didn't just see us be ultra conservative at the goal line (even though we were). It was almost the entire second half! Our offense was the best unit at Giants stadium in the first half by leaps and bounds both running and throwing the ball. Than all of a sudden we just stop what we are doing that was so successful, and try and hold on to a lead for 30 mins.
However, what you say doesn't make since according to way Fox operates. He fully expected his defense to stop the Giants when he punted out of endzone, so the best unit on field (our offense)has no pressure - yet a punter is deep in endzone punting with a chance for safety or Giant TD. Than the worse unit on the field that day (our defense) was expected to stop the Giants from going 46ish yards for a TD. If he has that much confidence in them what's stopping them from around their own 30 if they happened to get a safety (his mentality he goes with the D no matter what). However, if you live in that kind of fear you will just be a contender. Tampa & Denver game were a week and two weeks ago. I like Fox I just don't like him being so conservative when there were opportunities to get Smith the ball whether it's by pass, reverse, or other option. He scares our opponents, and we didn't use him at all in second half. He might as well been sitting on the bench.
There were numerous times the Giants had 9 in the box besides in endzone daring us to throw and we did exactly what they wanted - play not to lose the game. In a game like this you sometimes have to grab your balls and go win the game! Fox apparently left his at home in second half of this game. I think Bowden said it best something like if "I'm stuck deep in my own side of field watch out because one of us is about to score." Guess what someone did > the Giants!

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