I don't know how many boxing fans there are in Charlotte. But hen I run into some, I'm always surprised and appreciative.
Almost anybody can talk about football because almost everybody follows the game. Teams play once a week, there is lots of space to fill with talk about the last game or the next one and people do.
Boxing, however, is a cult. Few of us care. So I was surprised last night when my wife and I went to the Beantown Tavern on Tom Short Rd. and, a few stools down, heard an animated conversaton about boxing.
One guy did most of the talking, and he was entitled because he knew what he was talking about. We were there for only one drink each, about 20 minutes, and the conversation never deviated from the sweet science. They talked about this Saturday's Mayweather-Marquez bout, greats from the past, champions in the lighter weight classes and who was the greatest heavyweight of all time.
Even the great Jack Johnson, not the singer, was invoked. Not many know about the legend of Jack.
I rarely jump into conversations anymore, partly out of courtesy and partly because my wife hates it when I do. But I always see bar conversations as open; if you're qualified, if you have something to say, jump in. Out of deference to Sharon, I did not.
Then one guy proposed that Mike Tyson had never beaten a good fighter. And I thought, is this true? Tyson fought everybody, but in his time all the good heavyweights were playing power forward or middle linebacker. He did beat Larry Holmes, but Holmes was an old man then.
Then I remember the one good fighter he beat, and I was there to see it. Had Tyson not knocked the guy out in the first round, I could not have made deadline.
I knew nobody would agree with me but I'd say it anyway. On our way out I said, "Michael Spinks."
"But he's a light-heavyweight. A heavyweight should always beat a light-heavyweight.," the boxing fan said.
"Spinks might have beaten everybody but Tyson," I said.
My point wasn't brilliant and I might not even have been right. But I wanted to play.
"Another boxing fan," somebody said. "What are the odds of that?"
Far too small, unfortunately.

No my friend the only great fighter Tyson ever beat was himself, He could've been one of the greatest to lace up a pair but he kept the wrong people around him after Cuss died not to mention fame went to his head. I'm from Boston where the sport still has a strong fan base. I still follow it though I'm in Charlotte. Nor Evander,Luis,or Bowe could've took him in his prime, no my friend not with Cuss still in his corner or even Teddy Atlas there he would've crushed them
Posted by: charles | September 17, 2009 at 07:14 PM
Oh and by the way even though I'm not a huge fan of this guy ( I hate a mouthy fighter) Mayweather will have his way with Marquez.It just might be an early night him. Something else for him to boast about
Posted by: charles | September 17, 2009 at 07:21 PM
Well, Tom, though not a fanatic, I am clearly a boxing fan..but focus on the middleweights down. To me, those lower weights are full of good fighters and fights. In my mind, the heavier weights are in shambles and have been since Tyson. I would not put money on him, but I like Arreola(sp?) and would not discount his power and bullish style. And dont discount Marquez either. Mayweather WAS the better fighter, by far........but Marquez is a warrior. I expect 2 good fights next week.
Good luck in your professional and personal life.
Posted by: RayP | September 19, 2009 at 11:53 AM