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chris

Oh Tom, love the column but so misinformed. Soccer has the largest sports bet handle in the world, by far, and may be the most rigged. Many different ways to bet the game, including a goal line.
Not sure if they got bounties though.

Mike P

A bounty is soccer? Ha! You would never be able to tell if someone was really hurt or not. They fall down everytime someone looks at them the wrong way.

deepenwide

Thank you Tom for coming back and tell that guy who was writing your columns for the past few months to take a permanent hike.

Tvan

Tom,

If this was true, we would have seen players getting knocked out of games left and right. If this was true, we would have seen the Saints defensive players constantly hitting players after the play, out of bounds, etc... If this was true, we would have seen the Saints lead the league in penalties, personal foul and player fines.

And since none of the above happened, your statements above are rubbish. Chris is right, soccer has the biggest book around. In fact, the book on the English Premiere League is bigger than the NFL's.

John

Tvan,

In each of the 2009-2011 seasons, the Saints were one of the top five teams in the league in roughing the passer penalties.

In 2009 and 2011, the Saints were also in the top five teams in unnecessary roughness
penalties

In 2010, the Saints ranked sixth in the category. In the January 16, 2010 divisional playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals, Saints defensive players were assessed $15,000 in fines for fouls committed against opposing players.

The following week, in the NFC Championship Game against the Minnesota
Vikings, Saints defensive players were assessed $30,000 in fines for four separate illegal hits, several of which
were directed against quarterback Brett Favre.


That is directly from the NFL report. Now you know and knowing is half the battle.

Sportsdon

The amount of the bounty doesn't matter too much after a certain point, it's the bragging rights in collecting it that was the real motivation. Like winning a $5 bet off a friend. The reward is in the boasting.

Nonetheless when your dumb enough to self-document any crime you get what you deserve. As far as I'm concerned they hastened the end of two HOF QB careers so I have no concern for any Saint members career or money loss now.

As for Drew Brees, he likes winning and it wasn't aimed at him.

Michael Procton

The NFL has already announced that an outside party (and a convicted felon, at that) contributed to the Saints' opponent injury pool.

Evyatar

honestly so do I...something tells me Favre is pushing his luck and so are the Vikes with the whole siaottiun. But I could also see them pulling off some incredible plays and making things happen in spite of all of that. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...either way I'm just excited that its football season once again!!

Momo

Luckily my son is playing in a legaue that teaches proper tackling/blocking and the kids are taught how not to deliver injury blows. That said, things happen where injuries will occur, regardless of how safe' you're trying to be. All of that said? A bounty system just sucks. And pisses me off. I seem to be pretty pissed off at the NFL in general this week, don't I?

Greg

Have to agree with a lot except for the score. I'd pblbaroy give it a 7.5 to 8. Some parts of it are just great, some missions are just pure awesomeness and really get you going. Sadly these are alternated with missions solely designed to unlock side missions or for some reason to go buy some clothes and pimp your car. Without a good reason these just feel like filler.I also felt little need to go out and cause havoc, after a while it just gets old and you keep getting tons of cops and gangs on your case. I just want to punch out a few pedestrians with little to no consequence. But it seems there is always at least a gang or cop around coming to mess up fun like that. Of course cops should show up at some point but you should be able to for at least a few pedestrians.The same problem that plagues the missions comes back to the customization. You can alter your character and what he or she wears to the EXTREME same goes for the cars you drive, you can mod them to all hell. Then you come into the cribs you unlock and you can't do anything except for the strongholds. You can't really customize your gang, just pick from a few presets, can't pick and pimp out the cars they drive, can't choose the gang signs/taunts they use. After the start I was hoping to pretty much Sim it up and just pimp your cribs and everything to all hell, to your hearts content. One part of the customization (character and car) has been improved so much, the other part feels neutered.The whole game gives off a feeling that they had some great ideas but that these meant that they couldn't put enough energy and thought into other parts and they feel lacking. There are parts in there that remind me why I love this series, and there are parts in there that are lacking to such a degree they take me out of the game. I wouldn't go as far as giving it a 6/10 (although I can understand your disappointment) but it would be a 7.5 to 8 out of 10 for me. And to think that I was thinking that after Skyrim as first this had a good chance of taking second place in my top 5 games of 2011. Right now it would barely make it or go into the top 10. I still really enjoy it, but it is far from what I expected and hoped it would be.

Fulvio

I'm gonna have to agree with Joe here, What i really didn't like is they toned down chrecatar customization, Being able to painstakingly choose every article of clothing has been lumped into just upper/lower body, with some thrown together outfits, It's still decently but it's definitely not better than what they had in 2. I also am upset about what they did with Johnny Gat. He didnt see nearly enough screen time as i wanted him to. I hope since they were so vague with what happened to him, that we'll be seeing him in saints row 4. I also see a huge missed opportunity for a game play scenario like Red Dead Redemption multiplayer. Imagine a server that hosts a persistent world with players running around at tandum, doing missions or fighting each other in the streets. That would have been sweet.However one thing i do really like about SR:3 is that they took out that annoying lock on system and made combat alot more fun, switching the controls to a 3rd person shooter which plays alot like APB. It makes combat so much more enjoyable and fun rather than just locking onto a target and firing.In closing, i agree with joe, the game is average at best, adding some great things but mostly stripping away what made the series epic in the first place.

Pretinho

Althrough i agree some reasons of yours (the game is short, poor grpihac,freedom of choice ), i think this is one of your not-so-good review.First of all, why did you compare this game to SR2 the whole review?? yes, its the sequel, but u should review a game standing on its own. SR2 tried to have more serious tone, and look what happened: lower sales than SR3. The developers had to make a tough decision, because a game can't be ridiculous,over-the-top and have a good, realistic story at the same time. I, who never played any previous games (because SR2 on pc was a mess, which sould be taken to account) , had more fun with this game than other games.Secondly, some of your reasons ain't convincing. Dumb police AI is developers's purpose, they want us to have fun causing mayhem and killing people without worrying of getting arrest every second. Ninja chicks're not that hard to kill if u got the right weapon fully upgraded. The lag of that practical level isn't game breaking game design, u just have to take it slow, find cover instead of running around like that.Just some constructive advice so your show keep getting better and better.

Monster Beats By dr. dre

The NFL leads the league in betting. I'm not talking about brackets; I'm talking about point spreads. One reason professional soccer has not made it in this country is because a conventional betting line would fail. When the score is 1-0, does the winner cover? Is anybody ever more than a 1/2-goal favorite?

What if somebody wanted to put down serious money on Sunday afternoon football, and he or she knew about the bounty program New Orleans has made famous?

If Team B's offense is good was because of its quarterback, and you know that Team A is trying to take that quarterback out of the game, might you be tempted to invest a few bucks on Team A?

If you were connected, and close to the team, you might even offer to enhance the bounty yourself.

Monster Beats By dr. dre

I hope Parcells does coach, it would keep our division interesting and give Aints fans less of an excuse to keep whining about their well-deserved punishment when they start losing games.

I'd also like to see the Panthers have two more shots at Parcells, and avenge that 35-14 loss in 2006 on Sunday Night Football at BofA, in Parcells' last coaching season (and Tony Romo's first-ever start). Easily one of the more humiliating defeats we've ever had; we led 14-10 early in the 4th quarter before they dropped 25 unanswered on us. Can't believe that was over 5 years ago, man I'm getting old.
If the marriage of Parcells and the Saints becomes official, no Panther fan should object.

Monster Beats By dr. dre

The NFL leads the league in betting. I'm not talking about brackets; I'm talking about point spreads. One reason professional soccer has not made it in this country is because a conventional betting line would fail. When the score is 1-0, does the winner cover? Is anybody ever more than a 1/2-goal favorite?

What if somebody wanted to put down serious money on Sunday afternoon football, and he or she knew about the bounty program New Orleans has made famous?

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